[LucasBunny]

^I would not keep performing that's for sure.
I can perform anytime, but if someone's life is on the line, it can wait.

[Hitorijime]

But aren't you NOT supposed to stop a seizure?

And like pink_elephant said, they thought she fell at first, so what happens if she fell and all she did was trip, well then, I guess they have to stop the performance immediately.

[theskinnygirl]

IIf they cared why didnt they help??

If they didn't care, then in the caps that Platinum posted, why do you see one of them gasping and others keep on looking back?

I hope that people understand that in a situation like that, people just don't know what to do.
All of them are shocked like heck.
If I was in that situation, I would have probably done the same thing... (not because I am heartless)

[LucasBunny]

If they didn't care, then in the caps that Platinum posted, why do you see one of them gasping and others keep on looking back?

I hope that people understand that in a situation like that, people just don't know what to do.
We, as outsiders, can not really know what is going on in their mind.

I honestly believe if they cared they would have atleast stop the music
10 girls on stage???? give me a break, atleast one could have helped, but no they just stood there.

I know what I would do, go see about that person.

Did they comment on this yet?

[Hitorijime]

One did help and that was after. But they were unsure what was happening. You seriously can't expect them to know what was happening to her.

And they DO care because they cancelled some of their interviews and performances just to go visit her in the hospital yesterday.

[theskinnygirl]

I honestly believe if they cared they would have atleast stop the music
10 girls on stage???? give me a break, atleast one could have helped, but no they just stood there.

Yes, all of the 10+ girls on stage are heartless...
So are the crew backstage who are watching the girl without doing anything for 30 whole seconds.

Come on now. Even that one dancer who is supposedly the only one who have a heart came in 20 seconds after the girl fell down.
You can say that you would help the girl if you were in the situation, but if it happens, you might react differently.

[Lil.Miss.A]

whoa... watching that scares the sh*t outta me.

say that they were really trained to just go on when something like this happened, then at least the people back stage should be trained to handle incidents like this quickly as well?
what if it was a life-threatening?

also, the person who handles the cameras shouldn't have shot that whole incident.. it was live for god's sake.. they could've stopped the whole thing or at least focus the shots on the singers but they kept going back to the angle where you clearly see the poor girl struggling on the floor..

and why is she apologizing for anyone? it's an accident. and the truth is nobody helped her for 30 seconds and they still broadcast it live... if it were me I'd be holding a grudge against someone

entertainment business is cold and scary.....

[scribbles*]

OK well I've worked behind the stage of shows for Korea before and the head boss of the shows ALWAYS ALWAYS SAY "NO MATTER WHAT. KEEP THE SHOW GOING!!!! ANYTHING/EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE/DURING THE SHOW IS NOT A MATTER. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS...SOMEBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, YOU JUST DO YOUR JOB!!! IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT IT IS. JUST KEEP DOING YOUR JOB."

I'm pretty sure that's what was told to them. They probably thought it was going to be taken care of and what they're doing is supposed to be what they were continueing to do. That goes for See Ya, backdancers, and everybody else.

If anybody's cold, it would be the people who run everything and teaches that "THE SHOW MUST GO ON."

My friend worked behind a music show once and it was a recorded show so it wasn't aired, but one of Hyori's backdancers fainted and Hyori stopped singing to help them. It wasn't even a live show and she got in maddddd trouble for that. Not a single person backstage saw her as being a caring person. They just saw her as being unprofessional.

Thats not what a singer is supposed to do. Theyre supposed to keep the show moving and whoever is responsible for stuff like backdancers fainting/seizures, THEY're the ones who are supposed to take care of it.

The singer caring, crying, all that kinda stuff is taught to do AFTER ther show is done. (I'm sure that's what happened with Destiny's Child too.) We say "The show can wait, we need to take care of our person" but people in the music industry think "The *singer* taking care of the person can wait cus other people will do it, but the show needs to continue."

I'm not trying to make Hyori sound like a sweetheart and See Ya all heartless and insensitive, because they're not. They were doing what they were supposed to be doing and show all their emotion/care after they got off and the camera is off their focus. And not to mention that they are young ammatuers...Of course they're gonna be scared, freaked out and confused...but at the same time, they're gonna just do everything they're told.

The crew who came in...were incredibly late. They need to learn how to hurry it up.

Anyway, I dont see this as anybody's fault. I see it maybe as things that are trained and taught should be changed, but I don't see this as anybody's fault OR anybody being careless.

See Ya DID apologize for this by the way.

[yum yum dimsum]

they were trained to keep the show going?
a poor girl is lying on the floor having a seizure..!! what if it happened to one of the members? would they just carry her out too and continue with only two of them? (probably not!) because the rule says 'the show must go on' ???!!

they were already looking back, with shocked expressions, some almost teary eyed - why they didn't just went ahead and (get) HELP the poor girl. and that girl should've been off the camera. what was the camera man thinking?!! and why the show's staff only made a move after one girl decided to do something!!?? stooppiddd!!

i dont blame Seeya and backup dancers for what happened.. but on moments like that, they should forget about the performance or the show. doesn't matter if they got told to keep the show going. its a persons life we're talkin about here. they would probably gain more fans if they helped that girl.
but after this incident, for those who are not familiar with them - they come across as cold hearted people who worry more on what their bosses told them to do than helping a girl in a life-and-death situation.

i feel sorry for the group and pissed off at them at the same time. im more pissed off at that shows staff..

no one deserved to be ignored like that

[J E W E L Z *]

i dont blame anyone either. but that was pretty sad.

nam gyu ri didnt seem affected by it at all. did she even notice?? lol. but yea i wonder if the backdancer is okay.. wow if she died, people would go CRAZY & blame seeya & everyone else that was on stage.
all the backdancers were messing up cuz they were watching her . obviously they cared but they couldnt DO anything. one of them helped her though.

[4tang]

so as long as you care that's all that matters? even before anyone came to help the backdancers they were aware that she had done more than just "trip." you care but not enough to do something about it. but then again that's how our whole society is...

before you are a professional you're a human being. as a human being, if they aren't heartless they would have noticed something horribly wrong and should have done something. this goes for everyone that was on that stage, the PD and all the staff.

[VioletSauce]

I think they cared about the girl.
They just didn't have the correct response.
If someone feel on the floor like that
and didn't get up then i would go to them.
I don't care about a stupid lip syching performance~

Whats more important:
Human Life > Performance

I still have love for them though.

[w00tah]

When are you all going to realize its live and it was the stage hand's fault for a late response. You think the girls could do anyhting? are they doctors specializing in neuroanatomy?

[Colorful]

^
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^ yes they noticed that she didnt trip a bit afterwards, but did they know what to do? That is the question.
Since I have never been in the entertaining buisness, I dont know what would happen and how they would handle a situation like that. If its supposed to be the singers or backdancers or the stage crew.
I'm not saying thats its not Seeyas or the dancers fault at all, yes they probaly should've done something, but what would happen if they do?
What would they do? Drag the girl out of the stage with hundreds of eyes looking at you, and the camera still rolling? Drag her off stage with the performance clothes on (that seems really uncomfortable) and their short shorts on? Their hair in the way and their song in the background (their not actually singing),, or would they wait for the stage crew (strong men) to do it?
I think it is pretty bad that they didnt stop the performance, and I was pretty angry about that. Do they want to show a girl getting a seizure on TV? Will that make the ratings go up? I think it would've been better if Seeya stopped the performance, stopped singing and dancing and motioned for the stage crew to come and help. That would've been much better...but as scribbles said,, what if your not supposed to?? IDK..I'm mixed emotions about this..


Just dont blame eveyrhting on Seeya on the dancers

[VioletSauce]

I wasn't blaming anyone~
All I'm saying is at least make sure the girl is breathing

[Colorful]

^ huh? No, I wasent talking to you, I was 1/4 replying to what 4tang said, and then putting my own thoughts into it..


and by the way..
EVERYONE lipsynchs...I hear a lot about how they shouldnt waste their talents and things like that and how they lost their resepct for Seeya after knowing they lipsynched again..but everyone lipsynchs..
and people should see how hard it is to dance and sing live at the same time...its pretty hard..
even ballad singers lipsynch

[urbanature]

I'm sure they felt the exact same way I did when my grandma had a seizure.
I was too shocked to even do anything. I couldn't even reach for the phone, my cousin did.
The only thing I wanted to do was go back to what I was doing before it happened.
In that situation, they're probably debating with themselves whether or not to stop and what to do if they help her because I'm sure none of them really know how to handle someone who's having a seizure. It's not like any of them have medical training.
I'm not saying they're completely innocent, but I'm saying they shouldn't be blamed so much..there's a lot of bashing go on and I don't think they deserve that.
Besides, I'm sure they were told that "the show must go on" and they should keep performing no matter what.

[KCFan]

OK well I've worked behind the stage on shows for Korea before and the head boss of the shows ALWAYS ALWAYS SAY "NO MATTER WHAT. KEEP THE SHOW GOING!!!! ANYTHING/EVERYTHING BEFORE THE SHOW IS NOT A MATTER. IF SOMETHING HAPPENS...SOMEBODY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT, YOU JUST DO YOUR JOB!!! IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT IT IS. JUST KEEP DOING YOUR JOB."

I'm pretty sure that's what was told to them. They probably thought it was going to be taken care of and what they're doing is supposed to be what they were continueing to do. That includes See Ya, backdancers, and everybody else.

If anybody's cold, it would be the people who run everything and teaches that "THE SHOW MUST GO ON."

My friend worked behind a music show once and it was a recorded show so it wasn't aired, but one of Hyori's backdancers fainted and Hyori stopped singing to help them. It wasn't even a live show and she got in maddddd trouble for that. Not a single person backstage saw her as being a caring person. They just saw her as being unprofessional.

Thats not wasnt what a singer is supposed to do. Theyre supposed to keep the show moving and whoever is responsible for stuff like backdancers fainting/seizures, THEY're the ones who are supposed to take care of it.

The singer caring, crying, all that kinda stuff is taught to do AFTER ther show is done. (I'm sure that's what happened with Destiny's Child too.) We say "The show can wait, we need to take care of our person" but people in the music industry think "The *singer* taking care of the person can wait cus other people will do it, but the show needs to continue."

I'm not trying to make Hyori sound like a sweetheart and See Ya all heartless and insensitive, because they're not. They were doing what they were supposed to be doing and show all their emotion/care after they got off and the camera is off their focus. And they're young ammatuers...Of course they're gonna be scared but at the same time, they're gonna just do everything they're told.

The crew who came in...were incredibly late. They need to learn how to hurry it up.

Anyway, I dont see this as anybody's fault. I see it maybe as things that are trained and taught should be changed, but I don't see this as anybody's fault OR anybody being careless.

See Ya DID apologize for this by the way.

This is a great post. Very insightful. I totally agree with you. The SeeYa girls are new to the business and are only 19-21 years of age. They're young and have never experienced anything like this; they don't know how to react. There ought to be some protocol on how to deal with this sort of situation (I hope that there will be in the future). I am sure that if they had known what to do in that circumstance, See Ya would have done it in a heartbeat. However, they weren't prepared for it and didn't know what to do, and I think that's what caused their lack of action. Was that heartless? I don't think a lack of action means a lack of concern. When have they ever appeared heartless in the past? They've been kind, sweet, and shy in all their interviews, not cold and unfeeling. I was watching a video from their teleconcert from last week, and they seem anything but "heartless." They're warm (lovely interaction between the members) and bubbly (I hear someone laugh in the middle of the song) and just very "normal." I think during that incident, they were just a bunch of confused young women (and essentially newbies) who were just doing what they thought was expected at the moment (to keep the show going). It must have been absolutely horrifying and surreal.

One did help and that was after. But they were unsure what was happening. You seriously can't expect them to know what was happening to her.

And they DO care because they cancelled some of their interviews and performances just to go visit her in the hospital yesterday.

That's very sweet of them. I hope she's in better condition now. <3

About the lipsynching, I don't think we need to resuscitate that already discussed (and often times heated) argument we had two weeks ago. I don't agree with the lipsynching (or the outfits, dancing, remixing an already great song, etc.), but I don't fault See Ya for it happening. As people have pointed out, it's more likely that it was the management's idea. I just hope whenever they appear on Inkigayo again, they sing live. That is their element—simply singing live on an uncluttered stage. Their sheer vocal ability sets them apart. I know that what happened this week was disconcerting, but I really think we need to move past this sooner or later. Not forget about it—in fact, I hope it serves as a valuable lesson—but not dwell constantly on what happened or what could have happened. How people act in 30 seconds does not determine their character. The bottom line is: regardless of anything, this group is very talented. They've worked really hard to get where they are today. It's a shame if people let one incident (that doesn't accurately represent the group) overshadow their accomplishments and their true wealth of talent.

[bakeryi]

uhm... does anybody know the youtube link to this performance??
i wnat to see what happened.

[motoway065]

uhm... does anybody know the youtube link to this performance??
i wnat to see what happened.

i uploaded a clip of just the fainting part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuWNWcl1N_A


i hab the full but its over 100MB-_-