[Crispy]

^ 100% agreed on The Real Me.
Listen to it all the time; it's my iPod fodder, for sure.
ESPECIALLY 뛰어가, Get My Shine On, 꽉잡아, and 진흙 속에서 피는 꽃.
Also, there's no trash in the album -- you can tell the man has a message he wants to deliver.
All the songs are inspirational and about life, not garbage.
That's the album that really made The Quiett shine in my book.
Probably my favorite hip-hop album of the year.

Where are you guys getting these albums, anywho?


P.S.
a while back, when somebody said that The Quiett was dissing Epik High,
I doubt it since he gives them a shout out in his "special thanks" section of one of his tracks.

P.P.S.
Ahh, just saw on HipHopPlaya that he released a new mixtape ["Back on the Beats"].. when did this happen??
Anybody know where I can buy it from? (that takes US currency)

[PoppinBC]

^ 100% agreed on The Real Me.
Listen to it all the time; it's my iPod fodder, for sure.
ESPECIALLY 뛰어가, Get My Shine On, 꽉잡아, and 진흙 속에서 피는 꽃.
Also, there's no trash in the album -- you can tell the man has a message he wants to deliver.
All the songs are inspirational and about life, not garbage.
That's the album that really made The Quiett shine in my book.
Probably my favorite hip-hop album of the year.

Where are you guys getting these albums, anywho?


P.S.
a while back, when somebody said that The Quiett was dissing Epik High,
I doubt it since he gives them a shout out in his "special thanks" section of one of his tracks.

P.P.S.
Ahh, just saw on HipHopPlaya that he released a new mixtape ["Back on the Beats"].. when did this happen??
Anybody know where I can buy it from? (that takes US currency)

Got a few answers / comments for you =)

The Quiett definitely doesn't diss Epik High, that group has done a huge amount for the underground by associating with Movement and by featuring / being featured with underground artists. A lot of people don't know it, but it was The Quiett who produced 8:45 Heaven, an interesting little tidbit.

He's actually on iTunes, Music and The Q-Train are at least. I ordered "The Real Me" from yesasia.com, they have an OK selection of underground music there.

I saw the "Back on the Beats" mixtape release, and I couldn't find it anywhere, places that take US currency or Won (was going to have my one of my Uncles in Korea get it for me). I made a myspcae (never had one before, hahaha), sent The Quiett a message asking about it... he responded and said it was completely sold out, he gave me these sites to keep checking with, said he has plants to release more copies sometime late this year / early next year. These sites all list his album, but have "out of stock" and I'm pretty sure only take Won, not US dollars.

hyangmusic.com / groovestore.co kr / imusic.co.kr

He did say that if I can't manage to get it to let him know, and he says we'll figure out a way to make it work. If you can't purchase from those, I can message him back and ask about how it might be possible to get the mixtape without going through the Korean record stores, just let me know =)

[GDlovesBEE]

Back On The Beats is pretty good. Some old sounds are compiled on there as well. I was surprised to hear the beat from "Ophelia, Please Show Me Your Smile" on there as "Brokenhearted 16 Bars." I didn't know he produced the beat for Eluphant. I was so obsessed with the Ophelia song when it came out.<3

[bhebie9]

He did say that if I can't manage to get it to let him know, and he says we'll figure out a way to make it work. If you can't purchase from those, I can message him back and ask about how it might be possible to get the mixtape without going through the Korean record stores, just let me know =)

SWEET! Please do ^^;;

The Q is really talented--too precious that he gotta stay down under. He's a great MC and a great producer. His style is compatible with a lot of other rappers. And you could tell--from his "P & Q" days to now--he stayed true to his own style.

My favourite song from his latest mixtape is Love Vibration ^^;; He once had a performance on that song in front of a lot of fans in the rain haha. it's pretty sweet.

Next in my Producer/MC list are Sleepy and The Loptimist

[PoppinBC]

SWEET! Please do ^^;;

The Q is really talented--too precious that he gotta stay down under. He's a great MC and a great producer. His style is compatible with a lot of other rappers. And you could tell--from his "P & Q" days to now--he stayed true to his own style.

My favourite song from his latest mixtape is Love Vibration ^^;; He once had a performance on that song in front of a lot of fans in the rain haha. it's pretty sweet.

Next in my Producer/MC list are Sleepy and The Loptimist

I agree - in my opinion the best producer out there, and I listen to underground from Korea, US, France, UK, and (don't shoot me!) some Japan (Nujabes is good, don't hate =P).

I'll send him a message asking about it, let him know there's more than just me interested in getting a hold of it. Typically takes him a few days to get back to a message, but I'll be sure to post something either in this thread or a clearly marked new thread when he does get back.

Again I agree that he's managed to stay really true to his style, it's so unique and, to be honest, beautiful that I've yet to find an artist who can hold my attention like him. Loptimist is second on my list as well, if you really dig down, he's produced dozen's of the most popular underground tracks in the US, neat little tidbit.

Another really good producer is Kero One, he's Korean American and has his own label out of the US (Plug Label) and has really cool jazz + hip hop music, like traditional smooth jazz and hip hop. It's an awesome mix =)

[siliconrex]

When did 넋엽샨 change his name to 넋엽사니? I look at hiphopplaya and see this guy named 넋엽사니 who is actually 넋엽샨...well still can't pronounce it :x

[Crispy]

^ it's 넋업샨 (업, not 엽), which means like "Sean, worker of the spirit".
I didn't know he changed it to 사니, which I don't get. If it was 샤니, it would be like "Seany", kind of like Sean2slow.

[jeanhee]

I know this isn't pertinent to the discussion going on right now, but I really need to get this OFF MY CHEST.

Yes. I am one of the so-called and so-labeled "haters" of Epik High.

I put that in quotes because I do not 100%, absolutely, until I die, hate Epik High. I love the Epik High of "Mapping the Human Soul" and "High Society." I even love most of the Epik High of "Swan Song." They can be brilliant lyricists, maybe even the best of Korea. There's no one else I know (besides John Lennon and Paul McCartney) who have so fluidly inserted references to literature - Hemingway, Joyce, and even Borges (a name only literary snobs or European educated know) while talking vividly about the vices and decay of society.

That said, I hate this new Epik High. I don't know who they are. I don't know what they're rapping about. I could care less. I didn't even bother to listen to their fifth album after sampling their first single. But here's the thing that most people who are so quick to accuse fail to realize: I don't mind that they're doing their best to make money. Life sucks without funds. Working part-time jobs at clothing stores and bars is HORRIBLE. It's no way to live out one's youth or one's life. I want Epik High to be rich and rolling in G's. The material they put out in their 1st and 2nd albums was undervalued, and they deserve to be compensated for that.

What I hate is that they felt that they had to sacrifice their unique sound and independent voices to get there. And I'm sure that most of the people labeled as a "hater" by their rather crazed so-called fans feel the same. We want Epik High to play large arenas and put their days of playing on makeshift stages inside fire-hazard worthy clubs in the past. All we ask is that they go back to the people they once were - nonconformists who were unafraid to speak ill of social and physical establishments that hinder artists from creating art. Not this forgettable rubbish that can hardly be called exciting, much less revolutionary.

Epik High once promised a revolution. Is this what they were talking about?

[PoppinBC]

I know this isn't pertinent to the discussion going on right now, but I really need to get this OFF MY CHEST.

Yes. I am one of the so-called and so-labeled "haters" of Epik High.

I put that in quotes because I do not 100%, absolutely, until I die, hate Epik High. I love the Epik High of "Mapping the Human Soul" and "High Society." I even love most of the Epik High of "Swan Song." They can be brilliant lyricists, maybe even the best of Korea. There's no one else I know (besides John Lennon and Paul McCartney) who have so fluidly inserted references to literature - Hemingway, Joyce, and even Borges (a name only literary snobs or European educated know) while talking vividly about the vices and decay of society.

That said, I hate this new Epik High. I don't know who they are. I don't know what they're rapping about. I could care less. I didn't even bother to listen to their fifth album after sampling their first single. But here's the thing that most people who are so quick to accuse fail to realize: I don't mind that they're doing their best to make money. Life sucks without funds. Working part-time jobs at clothing stores and bars is HORRIBLE. It's no way to live out one's youth or one's life. I want Epik High to be rich and rolling in G's. The material they put out in their 1st and 2nd albums was undervalued, and they deserve to be compensated for that.

What I hate is that they felt that they had to sacrifice their unique sound and independent voices to get there. And I'm sure that most of the people labeled as a "hater" by their rather crazed so-called fans feel the same. We want Epik High to play large arenas and put their days of playing on makeshift stages inside fire-hazard worthy clubs in the past. All we ask is that they go back to the people they once were - nonconformists who were unafraid to speak ill of social and physical establishments that hinder artists from creating art. Not this forgettable rubbish that can hardly be called exciting, much less revolutionary.

Epik High once promised a revolution. Is this what they were talking about?

Can't say I'm a hater of Epik High, I enjoy most of their earlier music... the Korean music world is really bad, but they are the top selling Korean artists in the world right now, even higher than MC Mong (now I do hate him... with a passion). They have huge fan-base pressure, and they're sort of caught in a nasty place; they want to take lyrical ideas and musical sense and slide into the underground, have more attachment with true artists from that. They also need to maintain their fan base and keep popularity in order to stay afloat with money.

Mainstream Korea is rough, it's not nearly as supportive or collaborative as the underground. I don't think it's good the way they've molded their music into mainstream pop style, and their lyrics did take a hit. I'm not sure exactly what is going on, but I've lost my view that Tablo is the question to all answers... don't get that feeling anymore, much like you.

Not sure if that answers anything or really justifies it, I still listen to their old music very regularly... didn't even consider getting the mini-album they released when I listened to samples of the tracks... just not the Epik High I appreciate from before.

On the other hand... Back On The Beats is still sold out, and I can't find it, and The Quiett is lookin' for ways to get it to me, just still have no way of getting it >.<

[Crispy]

I know this isn't pertinent to the discussion going on right now, but I really need to get this OFF MY CHEST.

Yes. I am one of the so-called and so-labeled "haters" of Epik High.

I put that in quotes because I do not 100%, absolutely, until I die, hate Epik High. I love the Epik High of "Mapping the Human Soul" and "High Society." I even love most of the Epik High of "Swan Song." They can be brilliant lyricists, maybe even the best of Korea. There's no one else I know (besides John Lennon and Paul McCartney) who have so fluidly inserted references to literature - Hemingway, Joyce, and even Borges (a name only literary snobs or European educated know) while talking vividly about the vices and decay of society.

That said, I hate this new Epik High. I don't know who they are. I don't know what they're rapping about. I could care less. I didn't even bother to listen to their fifth album after sampling their first single. But here's the thing that most people who are so quick to accuse fail to realize: I don't mind that they're doing their best to make money. Life sucks without funds. Working part-time jobs at clothing stores and bars is HORRIBLE. It's no way to live out one's youth or one's life. I want Epik High to be rich and rolling in G's. The material they put out in their 1st and 2nd albums was undervalued, and they deserve to be compensated for that.

What I hate is that they felt that they had to sacrifice their unique sound and independent voices to get there. And I'm sure that most of the people labeled as a "hater" by their rather crazed so-called fans feel the same. We want Epik High to play large arenas and put their days of playing on makeshift stages inside fire-hazard worthy clubs in the past. All we ask is that they go back to the people they once were - nonconformists who were unafraid to speak ill of social and physical establishments that hinder artists from creating art. Not this forgettable rubbish that can hardly be called exciting, much less revolutionary.

Epik High once promised a revolution. Is this what they were talking about?

Tablo quoted Borges? When/where? ;o
I looove JLB, and from what I've heard, some of his works were published from my state university (UT). ;D
I'm pretty sure it was "Dreamtigers" (the collection, not the short story).
But that was digression. ;\

I agree about the whole thing; it was never the pop-infused beats that bothered me.
I loved Mapping and High Society, because the lyrics (for the most part) revolved around life.
Now it seems like all they spit about is "love", which isn't a horrible thing to rap about from time to time, but that's all their mainstream stuff is.
It's obvious that they made this switch because they started seeing popularity in that goddamned demographic, the teen girl fan base. (imo, one of the main proponents of the decline of Korean music)

It went from songs like "I Remember", "High Skool", "평화의 날", and "Fly" to
"Fan", "Love Love Love", "One", "우산", etc.

Can't say I'm a hater of Epik High, I enjoy most of their earlier music... the Korean music world is really bad, but they are the top selling Korean artists in the world right now, even higher than MC Mong (now I do hate him... with a passion). They have huge fan-base pressure, and they're sort of caught in a nasty place; they want to take lyrical ideas and musical sense and slide into the underground, have more attachment with true artists from that. They also need to maintain their fan base and keep popularity in order to stay afloat with money.

Mainstream Korea is rough, it's not nearly as supportive or collaborative as the underground. I don't think it's good the way they've molded their music into mainstream pop style, and their lyrics did take a hit. I'm not sure exactly what is going on, but I've lost my view that Tablo is the question to all answers... don't get that feeling anymore, much like you.

Not sure if that answers anything or really justifies it, I still listen to their old music very regularly... didn't even consider getting the mini-album they released when I listened to samples of the tracks... just not the Epik High I appreciate from before.

On the other hand... Back On The Beats is still sold out, and I can't find it, and The Quiett is lookin' for ways to get it to me, just still have no way of getting it >.<

The Quiettttttttt. <33
There's a man that still spits about the greater context of life.
Two thumbs-up for your sig, and two up for Tiger.JK for saying it.




Complete side-note, but:
Is it just me, or would you rather Sean2Slow just sticking to rhyming in Korean?
I dunno, but it just feels a little awkward when he flows in English, even though he's fluent in it.
Maybe it's just me.
(on that note... I love Sean2Slow. ;p)

[PoppinBC]

Sean2slow has really really good english, but I would rather hear him just spit in Korean... his flow is good in both, but it just seems far better in Korean... not really sure what it is about it, just feels that way. On the new Dynamic Duo album, the track he's featured on ("breathe" I think...) is pretty good, one of the better tracks from the CD.

Thinking of Sean2slow made me think of Addsp2ch... I know he was on Big Deal, dropped an amazing record, had good flow and fresh beats, but I haven't heard anything about him in a while... anyone know?

[bhebie9]

Can't say I'm a hater of Epik High, I enjoy most of their earlier music... the Korean music world is really bad, but they are the top selling Korean artists in the world right now, even higher than MC Mong (now I do hate him... with a passion). They have huge fan-base pressure, and they're sort of caught in a nasty place; they want to take lyrical ideas and musical sense and slide into the underground, have more attachment with true artists from that. They also need to maintain their fan base and keep popularity in order to stay afloat with money.

Mainstream Korea is rough, it's not nearly as supportive or collaborative as the underground. I don't think it's good the way they've molded their music into mainstream pop style, and their lyrics did take a hit. I'm not sure exactly what is going on, but I've lost my view that Tablo is the question to all answers... don't get that feeling anymore, much like you.

Not sure if that answers anything or really justifies it, I still listen to their old music very regularly... didn't even consider getting the mini-album they released when I listened to samples of the tracks... just not the Epik High I appreciate from before.

On the other hand... Back On The Beats is still sold out, and I can't find it, and The Quiett is lookin' for ways to get it to me, just still have no way of getting it >.<

Yeah...honestly, the only song I liked about their latest releases is Girl with JinBo...because of JinBo.
But yeah...they're sell outs.
It's not bad to have a huge fan base, make money, do all that ads, talk shows etc that korean mainstream stars do. But they didn't stay true to your style. So yeah, people might be like, "Well...they got better anyway! It's only right to ditch their old style of music." Yeah yeah...but underground korean hip hop fans don't think so. They did it to have MORE fans and MORE money.

awww We should try doing ordering in bulks so that it's easier for everyone. Thanks for trying anyway ^^;;

Complete side-note, but:
Is it just me, or would you rather Sean2Slow just sticking to rhyming in Korean?
I dunno, but it just feels a little awkward when he flows in English, even though he's fluent in it.
Maybe it's just me.
(on that note... I love Sean2Slow. ;p)

There are times when he sounds good with english, but yeah...I prefer him in rhyming Korean. The flow is insane

[SkyRunner]

anyone know if there are any English translation sites specifically for k-hiphop?
I'm particularly interested in TheQ - Flowers Bloom in the Mud & I'll Never Forget.

[heyitzthatfc]

Thinking of Sean2slow made me think of Addsp2ch... I know he was on Big Deal, dropped an amazing record, had good flow and fresh beats, but I haven't heard anything about him in a while... anyone know?

korean hip hop artists come and go, and just stay under, you never know when he'll return. but definitely dope.

[GDlovesBEE]

I finally got to see Untouchable's perf on MBC w/ Hwayobi... I love Sleepy's voice in the song!

[thenylonkid]

Thinking of Sean2slow made me think of Addsp2ch... I know he was on Big Deal, dropped an amazing record, had good flow and fresh beats, but I haven't heard anything about him in a while... anyone know?
Um, he just released an album with Mild Beats XDD
called M&A

[PoppinBC]

Thinking of Sean2slow made me think of Addsp2ch... I know he was on Big Deal, dropped an amazing record, had good flow and fresh beats, but I haven't heard anything about him in a while... anyone know?
Um, he just released an album with Mild Beats XDD
called M&A

That's awesome! any idea where I might be able to get it? I'd prefer somewhere I can buy it, if possible... like to support the artists!

The Primary and Mild Beats collab album was amazing, I bet this one is just as good

[thenylonkid]

^ Yup, Yesasia has it.
I've listened to the first couple of tracks and so far I like it

[GDlovesBEE]

Hey, does anybody know what VJ's saying about GD in him and Swing's new track, "Mathematical Madness?" I'm hella curious to know what he's rapping about in regards to GD.

[thenylonkid]

Hey, does anybody know what VJ's saying about GD in him and Swing's new track, "Mathematical Madness?" I'm hella curious to know what he's rapping about in regards to GD.

That's interesting~ Sorry I can't help you with finding out what he says but here are the lyrics for anyone that cares to translate...
http://blog.naver.com/noble_12?Redirect=Lo...gNo=20058395466

애들이 말해, 랩빨 떨어질 나이라구 (9)
but 타고난 패배자들 속에서 how will I lose
[Modern Rhymes] 2001부터 [누명] 2008 (8)
I've been mini coopertin on these rappers in thousand different styles.
공연히 혈압 올리지마, you better chill (7)
나도 널 괴롭힐 맘은 없어,
네게 필요한 건 제대로 된 선생님의 교육 (6)
you can take my verses as your textbooks
yeah I'm an "art star" like Karen O (5)
태양처럼 내가 발하는 빛을 쬐려고
너는 "나만 바라봐", 내빛을 받아다 반사 (4)
하는게 니가 shine하는 방법. 난 알아 다
물론 진짜는 respect해, 새삼 (3)
또 언급해야 되나 싶지만 Swings & San
Basicka-sicka G-Dragon & E (2)
어려도 실력만 있다면 난 그냥 매료되지
so 누명을 벗겨줘. 난 거만하지 않아
하지만 당신과 나? 속한 세상이 달라
나도 맘이 아파, but I'm the definition of "ILL" (1)
I'm definitely not a killer, but competition gets killed