[TrainDriver]

just out of curiousity. i also don't see a lot go to tafe (a practical work type of uni, but not uni), so i was suprised when a classmate who was indo is going to tafe atm.

[Chiyori]

asians believe you can make money more easily after studying commerce or engineering.

the reason why asians don't go to TAFE is cos its for losers who can't get into uni. simple.

sorry to make it sound so harsh.. but if you study properly for university, theres no reason why you can't get in with your marks.

[PiffleSprite]

^ whats TAFE?

[idyllic]

because they lack passion in one area so they choose something practical.

(i'm just making up crap)

[beautifulxmess]

asians believe you can make money more easily after studying commerce or engineering.

the reason why asians don't go to TAFE is cos its for losers who can't get into uni. simple.

sorry to make it sound so harsh.. but if you study properly for university, theres no reason why you can't get in with your marks.

....i understand what you're trying to say but it wasn't neccessary to phrase it in such a way.

Maybe you should realise that not everyone has the capabilities to get into uni (and for some, i assure you it's not because they didn't 'study' properly) and there are others who choose to go to TAFE because it's more fitting with their career paths and aspirations. We should go around making generalisations and branding them as 'losers' now should we? sorry, but I'm getting tired with all of this perception that tafe ppl are 'dumb' and the derision attached.

[saggiorpiioxgalaxy]

asians believe you can make money more easily after studying commerce or engineering.

the reason why asians don't go to TAFE is cos its for losers who can't get into uni. simple.

sorry to make it sound so harsh.. but if you study properly for university, theres no reason why you can't get in with your marks.

People who call others losers basing on this are losers themselves.

[blahxx]

i actually learned that if your IQ is 90 or below, no matter how hard you try, you cant succeed in college.

the same thing for med. if your IQ is not 130 and above, you wont make it through med school bcuz youre just not smart enough and you wont be able to memorize/learn everything. people with IQ of 130+ are considered geniuses, thus all doctors are geniuses and not everyone can become doctors (tell your parents that lol). i thought if you try hard, you can study to become anything, but i learned otherwise. this was a shocker. remember how your parents always told you "you didnt get an A bcuz you dont try enough" well, some things cant be helped.

if you've made it to college and is doing decent, your IQ is probably 100-110 and you are capable of graduating.

a baby is born with the highest potential IQ, and it can never go higher than that, there are factors that can lower it though, such as abuse, drugs, not having stimulation, etc.

my dad is super smart and he never understood why i wasnt getting really good grades in high school, easy for him to say, his IQ is 140 (i barely tried though..it was that "im too cool for school stage" haha). he thinks really fast, knows so many things, excels at his job, learned how to program computers all by himself that he even worked at a company doing computer related things when he didnt receive computer education, and processes information well. i thought ppl who were smart in high school did well bcuz they tried harder than me, but i realized that it's bcuz they have high IQs.

we all have our own talents, whether it be music, public speaking, etc etc so dont be so judgmental on people who didnt graduate from a uni. there are plenty of ppl who succeeded big without even a college degree.

[HKS457]

^ moments like these makes me think 110+ IQ is still isnt good enough =[

[idyllic]

i actually learned that if your IQ is 90 or below, no matter how hard you try, you cant succeed in college.

the same thing for med. if your IQ is not 130 and above, you wont make it through med school bcuz youre just not smart enough and you wont be able to memorize/learn everything. people with IQ of 130+ are considered geniuses, thus all doctors are geniuses and not everyone can become doctors (tell your parents that lol). i thought if you try hard, you can study to become anything, but i learned otherwise. this was a shocker. remember how your parents always told you "you didnt get an A bcuz you dont try enough" well, some things cant be helped.

if you've made it to college and is doing decent, your IQ is probably 100-110 and you are capable of graduating.

a baby is born with the highest potential IQ, and it can never go higher than that, there are factors that can lower it though, such as abuse, drugs, not having stimulation, etc.

my dad is super smart and he never understood why i wasnt getting really good grades in high school, easy for him to say, his IQ is 140 (i barely tried though..it was that "im too cool for school stage" haha). he thinks really fast, knows so many things, excels at his job, learned how to program computers all by himself that he even worked at a company doing computer related things when he didnt receive computer education, and processes information well. i thought ppl who were smart in high school did well bcuz they tried harder than me, but i realized that it's bcuz they have high IQs.

we all have our own talents, whether it be music, public speaking, etc etc so dont be so judgmental on people who didnt graduate from a uni. there are plenty of ppl who succeeded big without even a college degree.

yeah....umm...that's all bulli can't read?

[Becca*]

tafe? like a trades/polytechnic school?
depends on your capabilities and/or the type of career you want
a lot of people in trades school actually end up making more money than people who get their university degrees

[blahxx]

yeah....umm...that's all bulli can't read?

all doctors became doctors bcuz they tried hard, but also bcuz they have high IQs. if it wasnt for their IQs, they wouldnt have made it through med school. what im saying is not crap. it's the truth.

[Tamago86]

all doctors became doctors bcuz they tried hard, but also bcuz they have high IQs. if it wasnt for their IQs, they wouldnt have made it through med school. what im saying is not crap. it's the truth.

umm actually no..you're especially wrong about the 'baby born with highest potential IQ' part..Where exactly do you get your information? Hopefully not from your dad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ

Environmental factors play a large role in determining IQ in extreme situtations. Proper childhood nutrition appears critical for cognitive development; malnutrition can lower IQ. Other research indicates environmental factors such as prenatal exposure to toxins, duration of breastfeeding, and micronutrient deficiency can affect IQ. In the developed world, there are some family effects on the IQ of children, accounting for up to a quarter of the variance. However, by adulthood, this correlation disappears, so that the cognitive ability of adults living in the prevailing conditions of the developed world is highly heritable.

Nearly all personality traits show that, contrary to expectations, environmental effects actually cause adoptive siblings raised in the same family to be as different as children raised in different families (Harris, 1998; Plomin & Daniels, 1987). Put another way, shared environmental variation for personality is zero, and all environmental effects are nonshared. Intelligence is actually an exception to this rule, at least among children. The IQs of adoptive siblings, who share no genetic relation but do share a common family environment, are correlated at .32. Despite attempts to isolate them, the factors that cause adoptive siblings to be similar have not been identified, though it could be related to parents choosing the type of children they will adopt. However, as explained below, shared family effects on IQ disappear after adolescence.

Active genotype-environment correlation, also called the "nature of nurture", is observed for IQ. This phenomenon is measured similarly to heritability; but instead of measuring variation in IQ due to genes, variation in environment due to genes is determined. One study found that 40% of variation in measures of home environment are accounted for by genetic variation. This suggests that the way human beings craft their environment is due in part to genetic influences.


While a large amount of one's IQ is predetermined by genetic factors, the environment can play a role as well. IQ can be improved to a certain extent through reading and application. Improvement in diet and regular exercise can help certain cognitive functions, and getting more sleep may help as well. Depression and stress reduce IQ somewhat, so removal of these factors might also help.

Drugs designed to improve cognitive function, and sometimes IQ scores are called nootropics.

Working memory training, an experimental treatment which has according to one study by Klingberg et al, improved raw scores substantially on Ravens progressive matrices and Ravens advanced progressive matrices, both IQ tests. It has also been claimed in some studies that neurofeedback can increase IQ

[blahxx]

what are you trying to disprove w/your article? there are factors that can decrease your IQ and yes that include environmental factors but there isnt much you can do to increase it. everyone is born with their potential IQ already set so parents who believe that they can raise their children to become doctors might be disappointed

my dad didnt teach me this. maybe he can teach your dad some things though

have a nice day! =D if you have other things to say, why dont you pm me so you dont start an argument here

[Tamago86]

what are you trying to disprove w/your article? there are factors that can decrease your IQ and yes that include environmental factors but there isnt much you can do to increase it. everyone is born with their potential IQ already set so parents who believe that they can raise their children to become doctors might be disappointed

my dad didnt teach me this. maybe he can teach your dad some things though

have a nice day! =D if you have other things to say, why dont you pm me so you dont start an argument here

just wondering did you actually read what was written

[yodisbsteve]

its caause asians love math.

jus playin. but i do see alot of asians with buisness majors, im not sure about commerce in specific.

[xinfinite]

Because we enjoy economic stability?

[kOoHII]

because there's a high demand, great benefits, economic stability, flexible hours (usually)...and asians excel in math and science generally...

what a perfect fit

[Domokun]

yah! first post ever!

i am in first year engineering and personally i don't really enjoy it. but i think i chose engineering b/c:
1. it presented a challenge that i was able to undertake. commerce and engineering (and science) is hyped to be rather difficult compared to the other faculties (not that i agree).
2. as mentioned, the career path generally enables a person to have financial stability.
3. i fall into peer pressure from all the other asians.

btw, all that information about IQ is truly fascinating, i guess you learn something new ever single day

[zhangzheng]

SHAKE THAT LAFFY TAFE.

ROFL