[krnxwestsider]

im not an angels fan or white sox fan.. but since angels are LA.. im with them all the way.. so im startin this topic.. this has got to be the worst call by the umpire.. it should have been the 3rd out.. and if it was.. the angels wouldnt have suffered a loss.. just one mistake.. and cost the angels a win.. im pissed!!!

[youngnottheold1]

yeah

un-freaking-believable


such bs

[es-vib]

Man. I hope all the empires get fired. That was so bs.
Whitesox only win that game because they got lucky. They should know it too. Im freaking pissed of right now.
I'm watching hte interview right now, I just want to run to him and punch his face.
Angels will bounce back and win the series.

[Jeffversion2]

Who else thinks that all the umpires in this particular postseason are retards

[plusone]

worst call. wow

[brown eyes]

I'm with krnxwestsider on this one.. I'm not a big fan of the Anaheim Angels, but since I'm from So. Cali, I'll cheer them on.

I was watching the game as it unfolded with a few classmates. We all agreed that the Angels were robbed. Its totally unfair. The MLB better do something about it. If the White Sox takes this series, we'll know they didn't achieve it fairly.

Those umpires should be allowed to bring their seeing eye dogs on the field. Cause they're clearly freakin' blind~!

[Mugen]

i missed it, what happened?

[Platinum]

Gr... im so mad about this!!! i can't believe it T_T

[kensai]

Why was that a bad call? It was a pretty simple play. AJ swung and miss and the umpire thought the ball might have been trapped on the ground by the catcher so he ruled that it hit the ground. At this point, it should be second nature as a catcher to tag the batter for the third out or at least give a courtesy throw down to 1st.

AJ made a heads up play when he realized the umpire didn't signal an out call for any sort of tag. When the batter strikes out, the umpire gives his hand signal recognizing the fact that the batter struck out. Since the ball hit the ground (according to the umpire), Paul needed to tag AJ or throw the ball to first to complete the out. The umpire made no verbal call according to Paul that indicated AJ was out, so he did the logical thing by running down to first.

Bottom line? All of this could have been prevented by the Angels. If Paul would have just done a simple thing that every catcher does even in a 17-0 game for a 100 loss team, they would have won. When you watch baseball you always see the catcher tag the batter after a K when the ball is ANYWHERE NEAR THE GROUND. Why? Because it's so easy to do. If not, Paul could have just tossed the ball to first for the simple out. And if not that, after he tossed the ball towards the mound, Escobar could have still picked it up and thrown AJ out at first. Oh and of course, he could have not given up the game winning double too.

I'm a Dodgers fan so don't bother accusing me of caring about the White Sox. It's sickening how much blame others will put on third parties when it's their team that still had control over the situation. Oh and Angels fans, it wasn't like it was 2-1 Angels. It was a tie game anyway, don't act like you absolutely would have won the game without this call.

[es-vib]

The reason why Josh Paul didn't throw to first base because the umpire didnt say "No Catch". He didn't say that so thats mean thats an out. The ump rings up his fist but didn't say no cathch. Josh Paul would've thrown to first if the ump say No Catch. It was cleary the ump fault for nothing saying that.
And FYI, we didn't say that the Angels would win that game, we just thought the White Xox got too lucky. No one would know the outcome if there was an extra inning.
I don't know what you smoking about.

[randiZZLe]

I'm from chicago and I will admit that was a pretty rough call. Anywho, you can argue all you want but it won't change things now.

But as a Chicagoan, let me tell ya.. We've been there with Steve Bartman. It wouldnt be much of an argument if the angels just made the next out. Just another reminder that sh** happens.

[kensai]

The reason why Josh Paul didn't throw to first base because the umpire didnt say "No Catch". He didn't say that so thats mean thats an out. The ump rings up his fist but didn't say no cathch. Josh Paul would've thrown to first if the ump say No Catch. It was cleary the ump fault for nothing saying that.
And FYI, we didn't say that the Angels would win that game, we just thought the White Xox got too lucky. No one would know the outcome if there was an extra inning.
I don't know what you smoking about.

The umpire doesn't say anything when the ball hits the ground. He signals strike 3 to confirm the strikeout and waits for the catcher to tag the runner/throw him out at first, for the runner to be safe at first or for no tag to occur but the runner is called out when he crosses the plane into the dugout steps. Have you played baseball before? NEVER in my career has the umpire said "NO CATCH! NO CATCH!" and you never see that at the Major League Baseball level.

[epark1281]

If the White Sox takes this series, we'll know they didn't achieve it fairly.

wow, like we've never heard this before. Would you say the sox would take it fairly if the Angels don't win another game in the series? This reminds me of a play during the Yanks-Angels series, when Cano suwng and missed, the ball dropped on the ground somewhere behind the catcher, Cano ran to first, and the catcher threw the ball behind the 1st baseman. Cano "Made it" to first base until he was called out for "running outside the baseline", but whatever, right?, the series is over.
Anyhow, these refs are probably doing the best they can, they've got a hitter and a catcher obscuring their view when they try to make these calls. If nothing was called, the play is still live, and the catcher should have known better. If the Angels dont like it, beat them, and quit your whining.

[es-vib]

The umpire doesn't say anything when the ball hits the ground. He signals strike 3 to confirm the strikeout and waits for the catcher to tag the runner/throw him out at first, for the runner to be safe at first or for no tag to occur but the runner is called out when he crosses the plane into the dugout steps. Have you played baseball before? NEVER in my career has the umpire said "NO CATCH! NO CATCH!" and you never see that at the Major League Baseball level.

Have you seen the interview? Josh Paul said that usually the ump would say "NO CATCH" if the ball is not caught cleanly, he play so he knowed. The ump said that he was looking at Josh Paul motion and action, why would he need to look at the action to make the call?
Yes, he called it a third strike but never mention anything about "NO CATCH" or the ball not catch cleanly.
How would you know about that at Major League Level? Have you play in the Major?

[epark1281]

Have you seen the interview? Josh Paul said that usually the ump would say "NO CATCH" if the ball is not caught cleanly, he play so he knowed. The ump said that he was looking at Josh Paul motion and action,

did you hear what he said? he said "USUALLY", not, "ALWAYS", not "ALL THE TIME", not, "IS REQUIRED TO" it's, "USUALLY".
Just cause your pitcher played sloppy doesn't give you a reason to whine.
You know what else USUALLY happens?
Catchers will try and tag you regardless of a "no catch" call or not.

[kensai]

Have you seen the interview? Josh Paul said that usually the ump would say "NO CATCH" if the ball is not caught cleanly, he play so he knowed. The ump said that he was looking at Josh Paul motion and action, why would he need to look at the action to make the call?
Yes, he called it a third strike but never mention anything about "NO CATCH" or the ball not catch cleanly.
How would you know about that at Major League Level? Have you play in the Major?

The umpire does not say "No Catch!" if the ball is not caught. The umpire doesn't actually make a verbal call until the player is tagged. It's clear that you don't watch or haven't played baseball before. No umpire at any level will say that. I've played and I know people at the high school, college, major league, japanese league levels, heck even little league levels and no umpire does that.

[knickstorm]

not as bad as the robinson cano basepath call couple days ago.

[vi3ti2avei2]

The umpire does not say "No Catch!" if the ball is not caught. The umpire doesn't actually make a verbal call until the player is tagged. It's clear that you don't watch or haven't played baseball before. No umpire at any level will say that. I've played and I know people at the high school, college, major league, japanese league levels, heck even little league levels and no umpire does that.

man knows his stuff.. was about to say something like that.

plus even if it was called, both teams had a possiblity to win.

[Raw]

The umpire Eddings or whatever made two mistakes that he wasn't man enough to admit:

1) Blew the call. The ball was caught cleanly as a daisy.
2) Called him out when "he didn't mean too" by pumping his fist

So there you have it. Worst playoff call in the 21st Century.

[xellekimx]

wow, like we've never heard this before. Would you say the sox would take it fairly if the Angels don't win another game in the series? This reminds me of a play during the Yanks-Angels series, when Cano suwng and missed, the ball dropped on the ground somewhere behind the catcher, Cano ran to first, and the catcher threw the ball behind the 1st baseman. Cano "Made it" to first base until he was called out for "running outside the baseline", but whatever, right?, the series is over.
Anyhow, these refs are probably doing the best they can, they've got a hitter and a catcher obscuring their view when they try to make these calls. If nothing was called, the play is still live, and the catcher should have known better. If the Angels dont like it, beat them, and quit your whining.

lol indeed. Karma is a bitch.