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Girls and Hiphop. Well, actually girls and rap.

#1 User is offline   THEmerryJANE 

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 10:36 AM

So there's always that stereotype that girls don't know anything about hiphop or even rap music for that matter.

Why is that?

Especially given the time period we live in now VS the time period back then. It seems as if people associate preference of music to actual knowledge about rap. So, listening/preferring recent stuff = unknowledgeable, and knowing and solely listening to classics = knowledgeable. And I'm not even sure where listening to underground music gets you.

But that's pretty wack, in my opinion. And it's starting to become irritating. I could understand that logic if recent maintream music was the only thing you knew, but what about all of us that listen to both? Like if I wanted to jam to Ghostface Killah's Fishscale album instead of GZA's Liquid Swords one day, that would make me completely incompetent in knowing anything about rap?
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#2 User is offline   Take Five 

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 11:33 AM

listening to one wu-tang member over another makes you incompetent? yikes.

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#3 User is offline   THEmerryJANE 

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 12:13 PM

^Lol I guess that was a bad example. I was going for a contrast of Fishscale, a new album with undoubtedly new flavor, in comparison to Liquid Swords, already deemed a classic example of lyricism.

Would it be a better example to say Fishscale over Ironman?

Or even like TI's "King" to "Liquid Swords"?
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#4 User is offline   Lily. 

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 09:37 PM

Ummm girls here know a lot of rap.. I don't know where u live lol
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#5 User is offline   knockblock 

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 12:31 AM

As long as someone respects your taste then things should be okay. Everyone has their preference.
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#6 User is offline   EMA 

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:11 AM

i don't know about it because i think it's crap .

i know about other things though , and i find there aren't very many guys who listen to the music i listen to and aren't pretentious whores about how much more they know about it than me .
ema <3 LUPEN

there's this girl i know and she's okay .
there's this guy as well , he's much the same .
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#7 User is offline   Myss Blewm 

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 01:59 AM

I mainly think that it's because hip-hop is still mainly seen as a male thing. Most of the biggest rappers are male. And most of the girls in the rap world are R&B singers or just there to look pretty, which is sad since I thought that Queen Latifah and Lauryn Hill were setting up a really good stance for female rappers. I mean, I personally don't know as much about hip-hop as I used to, but you know, it is frustrating how people still think that it's a guys' thing only.
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Posted 15 June 2006 - 04:41 AM

QUOTE(EMA @ Jun 15 2006, 04:11 AM) View Post

i don't know about it because i think it's crap .

i know about other things though , and i find there aren't very many guys who listen to the music i listen to and aren't pretentious whores about how much more they know about it than me .


You bring up a good point. It doesn't even have to be about rap, it could be about virtually anything in this world. Rock music, sports, cars, etc.

QUOTE(Myss Blewm @ Jun 15 2006, 04:59 AM) View Post

I mainly think that it's because hip-hop is still mainly seen as a male thing. Most of the biggest rappers are male. And most of the girls in the rap world are R&B singers or just there to look pretty, which is sad since I thought that Queen Latifah and Lauryn Hill were setting up a really good stance for female rappers. I mean, I personally don't know as much about hip-hop as I used to, but you know, it is frustrating how people still think that it's a guys' thing only.


It's true that the hiphop industry is dominated by male figures, but I can't help think that maybe females are to blame for this stereotype as well. True, Queen Latifah, Foxy Brown, MC Lyte - they set up good platforms for other female rappers, but who exactly took advantage of this platform? Most of the girls in R&B or rap videos are , as you stated, just there to make it appealing. And if girls volunteer to do this consciously, then maybe they're to blame too.
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#9 User is offline   Myss Blewm 

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Posted 15 June 2006 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE(THEmerryJANE @ Jun 15 2006, 06:41 AM) View Post

It's true that the hiphop industry is dominated by male figures, but I can't help think that maybe females are to blame for this stereotype as well. True, Queen Latifah, Foxy Brown, MC Lyte - they set up good platforms for other female rappers, but who exactly took advantage of this platform? Most of the girls in R&B or rap videos are , as you stated, just there to make it appealing. And if girls volunteer to do this consciously, then maybe they're to blame too.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It is sad to see real female rappers who take the easy road of being pretty instead of making the choice to be a real rapper. I'm sure it's so much harder, but if Eminem and the Beastie Boys can make it as white rappers, I don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE for a lot more female rappers to make it big.
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