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#1 User is offline   restlesspetals 

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:46 AM

Hi,
I know almost nothing about music (but I love listening to it). Therefore, I'm clueless when people talks about singing in their real voice or using a fake voice (假音). Can anyone explain? How do you know that you are singing with your real voice or if you are singing in a fake voice? How do you differentiate?
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:50 AM

It's hard to tell when a guy is lip-synching to a woman with high-pitch voice.

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:50 AM

i don't understand what you mean by fake voice... blink.gif
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:52 AM

falsetto?....what do you mean by fake. Not using full voice?
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE(I've Been Sungified. @ Jul 13 2006, 11:50 AM) View Post

i don't understand what you mean by fake voice... blink.gif


Like some people sing with their fake voice when they get to high pitches
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:54 AM

It`s hard to explain ... but a lot of people use their fake
voice cause they can`t go that high in a certain song. I guess they`re like
singing through their nose, but then that might not make sense crazy.gif.

Hmm, usually the fake voice is a lot more rough, and it doesn`t sound much
like their voice when they talk. Yeah ... blink.gif


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Posted 13 July 2006 - 08:03 AM

You can usually tell if they're singing from their lower stomach, their throat, or their nose.

Take Rhianna for example. She sounds nasal, right? That's because she's using her nose to sing.

Mary J. Blige uses a mixture of her throat, and lower stomach.

Norah Jones uses her throat.

Lauryn Hill uses her lower stomach, but there are times when she uses both her throat & lower stomach.

Hardly ANYONE uses their lower stomach.
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE(restlesspetals @ Jul 13 2006, 10:53 AM) View Post

Like some people sing with their fake voice when they get to high pitches




you mean head voice or falseto? blink.gif


still confused on what you mean.. lol.. but peoples voice does change when they're singing.. going high and low will sound differenly
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 08:21 AM

I'm really bad at explaining. But if you know chinese, the word for it is 假音, which might help to clarify what I'm asking.

Also, if anyone knows the chinese singer, Faye Wong (Wang Fei), then you might know that she is well known for singing hard songs that switches from her real voice to a fake voice.

QUOTE(I've Been Sungified. @ Jul 13 2006, 12:06 PM) View Post

you mean head voice or falseto? blink.gif
still confused on what you mean.. lol.. but peoples voice does change when they're singing.. going high and low will sound differenly

Yes, I think it is falseto. How do you differentiate it from a person singing at a high pitch in their normal voice?
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 09:33 AM

usually..when singing using your diaphram (sp?) you are using your "real voice" but when you use your nose or throat..its fake..eh..hard to explain..
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 09:48 AM

Do you mean fake voice like head voice? Most females and males have to used head voice when they sing higher pitches.
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE(restlesspetals @ Jul 13 2006, 11:21 AM) View Post

I'm really bad at explaining. But if you know chinese, the word for it is 假音, which might help to clarify what I'm asking.

Also, if anyone knows the chinese singer, Faye Wong (Wang Fei), then you might know that she is well known for singing hard songs that switches from her real voice to a fake voice.
Yes, I think it is falseto. How do you differentiate it from a person singing at a high pitch in their normal voice?




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Posted 13 July 2006 - 10:28 AM

real voice = full voice
fake voice = falsetto

Falsetto is used for various reasons. Simply b/c you can't hit a certain note in full voice, so you falsetto it or using falsetto to smoothen out a certain part of a song.
Falsetto sounds whispery/airy as opposed to full voice sounding full and thick.
make sense?

Oh and here's an example.
Full voice is high notes sung by rocker (lee seung chul, park wan gyoo, etc) and falsetto is used by opera singers singing high notes.
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 10:40 AM

I think it's easy to differentiate. You hear it by the ear. x:

\then again there's always the skill of mimicry and overall the knack of being able to sing in voices other than your own natural singing one. After reading though, I guess you're talking about headvoice/falsetto/etc.
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE(HannahSong @ Jul 13 2006, 12:03 PM) View Post

You can usually tell if they're singing from their lower stomach, their throat, or their nose.

Take Rhianna for example. She sounds nasal, right? That's because she's using her nose to sing.

Mary J. Blige uses a mixture of her throat, and lower stomach.

Norah Jones uses her throat.

Lauryn Hill uses her lower stomach, but there are times when she uses both her throat & lower stomach.

Hardly ANYONE uses their lower stomach.



so are you really supposed to sing using your lower stomach? Is that the correct way to sing?
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Posted 13 July 2006 - 12:28 PM

To kick up to a higher pitch from the pitch yooh are singing, yooh use your diaphragm (pronounced as diaphram) that's located below your chest. If yooh use you throat to sing high pitches it might start hurting there and it sounds unreal so does the nose (don't know if it might hurt or not) but yeah.

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 04:47 PM

Sometimes the singer makes up his or her own style of the song by adding adlibs, etc. That's how I can tell if it's real.

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 04:52 PM

It's called falsetto. smile.gif

http://www.davestroud.com/glossary.def.falsetto.html

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Posted 13 July 2006 - 07:10 PM

Yes, and this question is frequently asked in the singing questions thread. You should post there.
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