[Illest]

"I blew up, turned the tables, got famous ya quick to switch sides like turntable
faders"
-Tablo


TBNY, Top Bob and Yankee


The Quiett and Paloalto


Does TBNY owe Epik High for their success? What about P&Q? Dare I say, even Double Dynamite? Is it too soon to speculate? I know TBNY was longer in the business than Epik High but I think by Tablo just being in the same room with TBNY has made more people buy their album. Now that's a funny concept, but knowing how popular Tablo is, it's not completely illogical. You'll occasionally see them together in TV/radio shows, acting like the best of friends. Sometimes, like in this mnet talk show, they were interviewing TBNY when suddenly Tablo shows up out of nowhere. Of course, all the girls scream, and the hostess is like "Oh, cool Tablo oppa is here!" Paloalto and The Quiett. Tablo produced their debut hit, and in the song he says how he's down with P&Q for like 20 seconds. Was his voice actually needed in the song? I don't know, you guys tell me. But I do know that Tablo fans would take interest in the media starved Paloalto and The Quiett.

[Take Five]

Double Dynamite

um...you mean dynamic duo? i wouldn't say so considering they only collaborated once on epik high's first album(i think), which the teen epik high fans don't seem to give a damn about.

TBNY...maybe. then again, they seem to have been in tons of other albums aside from epik high. surely that did something for them.

But I do know that Tablo fans would take interest in the media starved Paloalto and The Quiett.

they would? i can't see that happening.

[mp.ARK]

um...you mean dynamic duo? i wouldn't say so considering they only collaborated once on epik high's first album(i think), which the teen epik high fans don't seem to give a damn about.

Yeah they collabed only once... the song was called 하늘에게 물어봐. But I agree; the hype over Epik High began after High Society was released, which was WAY different in style from their first album. Plus you gotta remember that Dynamic Duo came off of CB Mass.

[KeepinItReal]

no offense but if you consider Epik High hip-hop then i feel sorry for you. Listen to their crap, it's basically like gayo, I don't know what's the hype with them.

[ShortaznGirl]

no offense but if you consider Epik High hip-hop then i feel sorry for you. Listen to their crap, it's basically like gayo, I don't know what's the hype with them.

if you don't like them what the heck were you doing in this thread in the first place. no offence but that doesn't make sense

[Take Five]

^because the point of this thread isn't to profess our love and admiration of epik high?

[VioletSauce]

Epik High is Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop covers a wide range. Which is what they do.

[KeepinItReal]

if you don't like them what the heck were you doing in this thread in the first place. no offence but that doesn't make sense

I came in this thread to diss them, midget. No offense but you know nothin about hip hop, just stick with your boy band music

[Drunken Epik]

^All right mang...you got your point across about Epik High. You hate them. OK, story over. Yo mod, trash this. Please. No point in letting this escalate to some stupid diss fest of Soompi members. My two cents...I'm out. One.

[ShortaznGirl]

I came in this thread to diss them, midget. No offense but you know nothin about hip hop, just stick with your boy band music

oops i misread this so i thought this was for fans or something. srry. real mature. lol. i don't want to start nothing so plz don't tell me what i do know or not know because i know nothing about you and i'm not talking to you like crap. thanx.

[hyeryun]

This is a confusing statement that you're making because Epik High was under MASSMEDIA and CB Mass (Dynamic Duo's original group- prior to Curbin's leave.) If anything Epik owes their own success to Dynamic Duo/CB Mass, because Tablo admitted that Epik High was discovered by Drunken Tiger and CB Mass at a club Epik was performing at.

I'm sure that Epik's popularity and collaboration with other artists has helped their fellow artist friends get more popular, but TBNY's album was beyond fresh even without the Epik songs. MOVEMENT was really popular last year due to so many popular groups coming from the crew, i.e. Drunken Tiger, Dynamic Duo, Tash, Leessang, etc. Palo Alto was already creating stir for awhile and his current signing with Jungle Entertainment (Tiger JK's label), I'm sure, has helped too. I think everyone's popularity goes just beyond being associated with Epik high, though I don't doubt it hasn't helped.

[Drunken Epik]

This is a confusing statement that you're making because Epik High was under MASSMEDIA and CB Mass (Dynamic Duo's original group- prior to Curbin's leave.) If anything Epik owes their own success to Dynamic Duo/CB Mass, because Tablo admitted that Epik High was discovered by Drunken Tiger and CB Mass at a club Epik was performing at.

I'm sure that Epik's popularity and collaboration with other artists has helped their fellow artist friends get more popular, but TBNY's album was beyond fresh even without the Epik songs. MOVEMENT was really popular last year due to so many popular groups coming from the crew, i.e. Drunken Tiger, Dynamic Duo, Tash, Leessang, etc. Palo Alto was already creating stir for awhile and his current signing with Jungle Entertainment (Tiger JK's label), I'm sure, has helped too. I think everyone's popularity goes just beyond being associated with Epik high, though I don't doubt it hasn't helped.

Word...Hyeryun, the masta of MOVEMENT...! Haha...

[jTeK]

Word...Hyeryun, the masta of MOVEMENT...! Haha...

yes yes... u go girl~.. and Palo alto is quite famous in the underground waiting to be blown, and Dynamic Duo opened the doors for Palo with the track they did together.... Epik high without the help from Movements wouldnt actually be where dey are right now..

[Drunkken]

im not sure if this is true but...
i dont think TBNY needs to thank Epik for bringing them out.
i think they were friend like a long time ago when cb mass was trio and they were supposed to fund both epik and tbny. after they helped epik, curbin left with the money because of hyolee (?) and tbny couldnt be funded real well so they came out way later.
again, not sure if its true, but its just what i heard.
and i do really enjoy both epik and tbny, but in my opinion tbny is better =)

recommended track
tbny - prayer

[jeanhee]

I'm so sick of people trying to make "high" art out of hip-hop. So you're saying that once you become famous and IF your song happens to show up on the Top 40, you're no longer "real?"

For those who spout out wisdom, I seriously think you need to evaluate yourselves before saying what's "real" and what's not.

[SeOuLjAh]

no offense but if you consider Epik High hip-hop then i feel sorry for you. Listen to their crap, it's basically like gayo, I don't know what's the hype with them.

Naw man, go listen to their first album. It's easily a candidate for best k-hiphop album of all time. Now if we were just talking about their other two albums, then I would have to agree with you (kinda...), their singles were REAL wack but appealed to the general audience (Peace Day, Fly, Paris). Still those two albums had a share of good songs too: My Ghetto, Lesson 2, Yesterday, Lesson 3, + like 5 or 6 more songs. It sucks though how close their songs are to being good, but they somehow mess it up with the chorus (example is that City That Never Sleeps song on their 3rd album... wow chorus killed that song majorly).

Now speaking on their skills as MCs, both are usually on point. Mithra is underratedddddddddddd as hell; he's real good, but it's like noone notices him ya know? If people can see Tablo as some Korean NaS (Obviously, I don't because of the weird image he projects in public, but let's just say we were judging him from only a lyrical viewpoint on songs like Lesson 1, My Ghetto, Lesson 2, etc), then Mithra would be the Korea AZ? (HAHA... wow that was a bad analogy right?)

Conclusion: I used too many paranthesis in this post.

[atel]

ummm... not sure about the rest of the comments that was made, but this part
"Epik High Opened Up Hip-hop To The Mainstream Audience?"
^ i dunno. for me drunken tiger seemed to have a bigger impact... epik high seems like they're continuining the trend...

[hyeryun]

ummm... not sure about the rest of the comments that was made, but this part
"Epik High Opened Up Hip-hop To The Mainstream Audience?"
^ i dunno. for me drunken tiger seemed to have a bigger impact... epik high seems like they're continuining the trend...

word. before Drunken, there was hardly any such thing as a hip-hop genre in the mainstream. There were predecessors (Uptown, DJ DOC, Taiji, Jo PD, some YG i suppose), but after DT came out, more ppl (particularly INDUSTRY heads) started paying attention to hiphop music, seeing it as somewhat marketable. prior to that the industry looked down on hiphop, seeing it as a bad influence on young kids. DT was pressured to do mainstream pop sh*t, like dance, wear make up, sing, lip sync, but actually told their label that they weren't gonna do that and were gonna do their own kind of music, own kind of performance, etc. if it werent for DT breaking those pop stereotypes in the 90s, the hiphop movement (though still small and growing) would not be as strong today.

As for Epik, I think they started somewhat a derivative of a hiphop genre. We all know that there's a few different stlyles of hiphop and I think Epik started one that was somwhere between YG and DT, something appealing to the mainstream but still had elements of traditional Movement. I suppose you can call them pioneers in that sense, but if there's anyone that really pioneered hiphop into the "mainstream" (and I mean real hiphop, the kind that can be universally understood as hip-hop), it's DT.