[GusXo]

Regarding the recent SeeYa backdancer Seizure incident. In korea right now, SBS and SeeYa are being dogged by horrible comments regarding this incident. Just wanted to know if your opinion of SeeYa has changed after seeing this incident.

In case you have no idea what is going on, during a performance of SeeYa's "Crazy Love Song", one of their dancers had a seizure, and collapsed to the ground, and no one helped her for 30 seconds.. which is quite a long time. The SeeYa members saw her, the other back dancers saw her, but no one helped her. They just walked over her and kept performing until a staff member ran on stage and literally DRAGGED the dancer off the stage.

If you search naver.com, you will surely find a video clip of the incident.

[Janice<3]

i say it doesn't matter to me.
because i was just on the seeya forum... and i think it was no one's fault.
and the situation was handled quite well except for dragging the girl off

[Hitorijime]

It doesn't matter to me. Actually, because of this incident, I got into SeeYa. However, when I first ehard of this, i thought it was horrible, but now I feel as though SeeYa handled it well (what Janice<3 said).

[babybeck]

i say it doesn't matter to me.
because i was just on the seeya forum... and i think it was no one's fault.
and the situation was handled quite well except for dragging the girl off

^That part wasn't done by See Ya by the way.

I actually got to know See Ya because of this incident. (well, I knew them before, but didn't really listen to their music)

They just reacted the way they did. It's beyond their control.
In situations as rare as that, people in general tend to not know what to do.
You can point fingers at See Ya for being heartless and not helping out,
but do you really know what goes through their mind at that moment?

And about the stage crew dragging the girl out of the stage, that's one of the worse thing to do with a person who is having a seizure. Aren't you suppose to wait for the seizure to be over before even touching the person?
They probably didn't know what to do though, which is understandable, since nothing like this has ever happen before....

I feel that See Ya is a scapegoat for this incident. The blame has to go to someone right? And since See Ya is the one on the spot light, it's easier to blame them... Apparently, they are getting bashed and criticised like crazy in Korea right now.
I actually don't blame the dancers or See Ya for their reaction (but their reaction is not the best way...). But I feel that the stage crew should have been more prepared and quicker with their action (since they are responsible for this type of circumstance). They only came in to help AFTER a dancer took initiative to help (which took a while too).



And also, as performers, you are suppose to continue with the performance no matter what happens... Anything else, the STAGE CREW was suppose to handle it.

I hope people realize that if they are put in a situation like them (performing LIVE, being taught to continue with their performance no matter what and let people behind the scene handle anything that happens, not knowing what to do), they will most likely reacted the same way. What make you think that you will run up to the girl and help right away, when in that incident the dancers, singers, AND stage crew did nothing? And if you say that you will, how would you know that you will really do it? Saying something is easy, but actually doing it is a different story... There are factors why they didn't help that has nothing to do with them being "heartless" or "money/business hungry."


See Ya is VERY talented btw.
Definitely the best girl group I've seen in K-music.
It would be a BIG lost to K-music if they go down because of this incident..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=exQK8NL4SDQ
^Here's the clip of what happened, if anyone wants to see...

I have the HD version, but I don't know if I can upload it here...

[she-smiles]

i answered......... what incident?
but now i know... and wow... i'm shocked.

[ihlubdbsg]

Well, IMO, I think the girl shouldn't have performed in the first place...Yes, SeeYa should of helped her but I still think that if that girl took good care of herself and not be anorexic or bulemic (whatever) then she would have been ok...I don't see them in a different way considering I'm not a big fan to begin with but that's just my opinion.

[GusXo]

Wow.. it is quite difficult to hold my tongue reading some of the comments left.. especially reading "the situation was handled quite well by SeeYa"... is this regarding how SeeYa apologized.. most likely because their company told them to, and also to try and stabilize the raging critisizm they are receiving in Korea right now? sigh...

Anyway, SeeYa is no doubt extremely talented.. in singing. They are have been blessed by God vocally.

However.. as for me.. if I was on stage, if i was at the White House, if i was driving on the highway, if I was even upside down on a trapeze with alligators below me, etc... no matter where or what i was doing.. if someone was having a seizure 2 feet away from me. I would drop whatever the heck i was doing and do whatever I can to help out that person, whether I know them or not.

yes, getting through a performance on live tv is important, but not as important as helping someone who's life is in danger.

And by the by.. the not so gentle way that the staff member dragged her off the stage.. absolutely horrid. It was completely and utterly ghastly and horrifying.

[Colorful]

I still like them, but my answer is not up there...

I mean, have YOU guys ever been in their position? Have you been on stage with the camera rolling, hundreds of eyes on you..Do you guys know what it feels like? And then a girl falls..

I think its simple easier said than done...

And, just because Seeya is the celeberity you shouldnt blame it all on them, or their backdancers and I think the stage crew and the people in the back should've came out and helped, I personally feel its more of their responsibility instead of Seeya's


Now, I'm not saying Seeya is completly innocent. Their at fault too. But not a lot. I think it would've been better if they stopped the performance and everything, and what was the camera man thinking? That people would like to see a girl getting a sizuere? He should've stopped filming..


Now when a person dances during a performance and just falls? What do you think? I would think she tripped or something. After 10 seconds of not getting up, thats when I would think somethings wrong. Then figuring out what to do and then not knowing what to do because of shock...

[pink_elephant]

No my opinion has not change. And they gained another fan: me. I looked at the performance from THEIR POV and totally understand why they acted upon their decision.

Personally I think creating more threads like this will add fuel to the fire. Some people will judge SeeYa and the criticism and bashing will start all over again. :-( And i know I have the right to not respond if I don't like a certain thread, but I wanted to add in my opinion.

[jirappo.]

no, not at all. i actually became a fan.
i agree with babybeck and yelinoh.
everyone who's saying they would immediately help the girl, have you ever seen someone have a seizure? saying things are easier than doing them.
and, why would i stop liking them just after one ACCIDENT? so just because seeya didn't help a girl while she was having a seizure, all of sudden their music isn't good anymore?
and i don't think this thread is really necessary. i sense a lot of bashing coming.

[back,sue]

The PD told them to keep going. You cant just stop in the middle of a performance.

[motoway065]

i still like them. in fact i like them more now

[edward1849]

For this particular incident, it won't change my opinions towards See Ya, it is out of their control. However, the fact that they keep lipsyning on this song's "special version" for dancing purpose turns me away. With their vocal skills, they should sing live every time.

Well, I shouldn't mix these 2 issues together. They are supposed to be separate incidents......

[Lene]

i do not dislike them after the performance.
But with all honesty it does affect my opinion about them.
if i were an audience there, do you think i would bothered more about the performance or the girl's life?
And her being dragged off was so uncalled for.
Don't get me wrong, i still like them, just not as much.

[missGiang]

I still like them...I don't think there's anyone to blame for this. To me, it just looked like the girl tripped and fell. A lot of that happens, so maybe they thought that's what happened? I probably would've thought so too if I were in their position. But after a while of not getting up, I would obviously figure out something's wrong....
But I think they've been taught to keep the show going so...they did. They knew that the stage crew would help her....So I don't think it's really anybody's fault..

I hope that the girl is doing well and feeling much better though =)

[VioletSauce]

I still like them
I just think it could have been handled better.
From what I saw Gyuri didn't seem to see her.

[smileyface(:]

my opinion on them hasn't changed, it's not their fault this happened.
Did you see their expressions?
Yeonji kept on glancing on the backdancer, Boram was shocked when she found out, and i think she was about to cry when the perf. was over. Gyuri looked like she didn't notice(even though she did..) but she apologized.

Anyways i'm glad the backdancer is fine now^^

[kkam jjak]

NO

Gosh... korean netizens are pissin' me off and so are the racist japanese kids on youtube that are leaving nasty ignorant comments that a japanese kid posted of seeya's performance

ok... i don't know why the netizens are making a bigger deal out of this when seeya and the actual backdancer that had the seizure seem to be fine and forgotten it and forgave each other already. seeya apologized the backdancer doesn't seem to have any hard feelings and yet crazy ass netizens who have nothing better to do are attacking the group with nonsense

in my honest opinion i don't think the backdancer should have performed in the first place. i have heard that she's had anemia since she was a child?... if so then she should have known better than anyone that she would not be able to perform when her body is not in its best condition... so in a way she has a little bit of her fault in this incident too.

as for SBS... they are professionals and i could not believe how unprepared they were for something like this when they were doing a live broadcast. back stage crews are always supposed to have an emergency plan just in case ANYTHING goes wrong... they don't wear headsets for nothing. If they had any sort of emergency back up plan.. i don't think their reaction time would've taken them 30 seconds.

seeya is probably traumatized by this and anyone who criticizes the way they handled the situation.. i'd like to see you do a better job. see ya was lip syncing but they were still on LIVE so if they stopped moving and all of them ran off the stage with the back dancer girl the show would have been more chaos. A lot of people are saying how they could have just stopped the show to help their back dancer, but they couldn't because it was a LIVE recording and if they did stop performing.. it's not just their performance that was ruined.. they could be putting everyone else's career on the line... PD's, backstage crew, sound and light crews, stage manager, etc.

i'm pretty sure a lot of you disagree with me but i think seeya handled the situation how professionals are suppose to do... i.e. Destiny's Child had an incident before in which one of their members tripped and fell on her face and the other two just stared at her and continued to sing and perform---the show must go on

[sungaaah]

it hasnt changed at all
im just appalled at how the
situation was handled.
i cant say anything bad about
them because they're new
artists and thats a scary thing
to happen to anyone ... and
the first thing they probably
learned is to CONTINUE w/
the performance no matter
what happens .. thats why
they were trying to stay as
professional, as well as the dancers

i juss hope the dancer is all right
and that people realize the girls
in seeya are human and everyone
makes mistakes ... it juss so happens
theirs happened on a grander
scale and live ...

[xgoody2shoes15x]

it hasnt changed, but i think its seeya's fault.
the backdancer had a seizure... it was a matter of life.
she could've died if the staff didnt see her in time.
all three of them saw it yet their face had no expression and they kept on dancing.
nam gyu ri is blamed the most by the netizens cuz she was the closest or something, but i think its all of them three's fault.
nam gyu ri said that it was because it was a 생방송, but still... someone could've died...