[genna]

Well, popularity equals money. If she becomes really popular in China, SM will probably have her release tons of albums, singles, have her do commercials, etc. So SM will definitely profit. xD The people in China may not be too familiar with her now, but with the promotions that SM will be doing, people will notice her in no time.

[~Karamel~]

she's performing again this week?!?!?!?!?!
wen are they gonna promote her more?!?!?!?!
i really wanna see her in an ad!!!!

[mandi_]

well, if they spread out into china, no doubt sm will benefit. china's music industry is big and if they do well in china, that means more money for SM.

Will SM be Jang Ri In's company in China though? Dont they usually use another company like BoA's is avex? So won't the profits that she makes in China go to that company then? Or does SM get a share of it... If Jang Ri In focuses more on China than Korea then shouldnt her company in China be getting most of the money not SM? or am i totally off base lol

[sakura_drop]

Will SM be Jang Ri In's company in China though? Dont they usually use another company like BoA's is avex? So won't the profits that she makes in China go to that company then? Or does SM get a share of it... If Jang Ri In focuses more on China than Korea then shouldnt her company in China be getting most of the money not SM? or am i totally off base lol

yeah SM gets a part of the money
but they wouldn't get as much money from Jang Riin if she work in china coz the money would hvae to get divide between the Chinese company as well and i think the chinese company gets a high proportion of the money Jang Riin makes
so really if Jang Riin debts in China is not up to SM that does the prompting ....... it up to the Chinese company .... so yeah we jsut got to how good the chinese company is good at promoting and you guys have to remember it is alot hard to promote in china than in korea becoz china is a big country with a big population and yeah the music industry in china is huge

[winG*]

^ The thing with BoA and Avex is that SM and Avex have some sort of a deal...which is why you'll see "SM Japan" labels on her CDs as well. So for sure, SM gets part of the profits from BoA's Japanese activities as well (it wouldn't make sense for SM to train BoA to debut in Japan and not take in any of the profits). That deal is also why all the SM artists that are active in Japan as well (CSJH, DBSK) are signed to a branch of Avex (Rhythm Zone[?]).

So for Ri In, she may get signed on to another Chinese company (which I think BoA, DBSK, and the rest of SM already are--the name of that company completely slipped my mind), and SM's China division will be a part of that deal as well, and will most definitely get a portion of the profits.

Maybe it's because I speak Cantonese, but I can't really understand Ri In's Chinese because of her accent. I understand Mandarin pretty well, but her accent makes it sound different o_o. If she wants to debut in Hong Kong as well...her accent might be a bit of a problem :x She (or SM) probably won't really consider the HK market though. It's so ridiculously tiny and it's doing worse than the Korean industry. For newcomers, album sales of about 10,000 are considered very very good.

[Explicitj0yee]

I agree about the competition thing. I swear the future of kpop is going to be sooo interesting in terms of the sudden debuting of all these female artists haha In terms of popularity i think Younha is actually going to be a really big threat to her, they're both young, have great voice and are musical (younha - piano, jang ri in- violin)...and Younha is becoming really popular without heavy promotion now too. The awards for best solo female artist in the future will sure be interesting. Plus there's the girl JYP is debuting in america first but im sure she'll debut in korea after that as well, and may doni - even tho she's debuting in japan she'll probably come back to korea as well.

So many young female artists debuting! crazy hahaha.

I hope SM will be able to make Jang Ri in stand out from all these artists. If SM fully puts all their efforts behind her i'm certain she will. the HUGE advantage she has over the others is that she is in SM entertainment. Because they are just so freaking clever, like someone said most of their artists become almost 'god-like' and become legends in kpop... artists from other companies... yeah they're popular but they dont get that status..like rain, se7en etc yes they're REALLY popular but not... like DBSK/HOT/BoA etc...

God, what will SM do when lee soo man dies o.O

Yeah i get what u mean by saying that like rain and se7en are popular but not like.. LEGENDS in other words. People will definetly remember DBSK /HOT/ BOA and stuff as much as i love se7en, now dont get mad at me but i dont think he is at the status of being a legend yet.

^ In a way, Ri In is sorta like BoA. BoA's main focus seems to be Japan even thought she's Korean. However she's huge over in Japan and has gain so much recognization over there as well. So if Ri In does do successfully in China which she will, she will most likely stay there. However she'll probably make singles/albums for Korea as well. After all they wouldn't have thought her Korean if she wasn't going to use it for awhile.

Oh and happy 190th pg. Only 10 more till the 200th one!

I hope she'll be as Popular as BoA. but im kinda worried for her health, she seems so tired and fragile... >< I was just wondering though.. if BoA is korean and she learned Japanese why didn't SM debut a korean girl teaching her Chinese to the Chinese market instead of a chinese singer... I mean that would really show their language skills lol. maybe cause it would take a long time cause chinese is really hard.. But then again im happy just with Jang Riin ^^

i have a question, like how boa is big in japan and how zhang li yin will be big in china , how does that benefit sm entertainment (lee soo man)? yeah they gain more popularity and stuff but i have no idea how it lee soo man gets profit. do yuo guys get what i am trying to ask? lol -confused-

Yeah i get what u mean, but i think LSM is gonna debut his other korean groups/ singers in China after he makes Jang riin popular because Jang riin is from SM Entertainment, she'll make SM entertainment more known in China and more people would look forward for other artists from SM to debut in China.

[jack jack attack]

I'm back!! Yay! After 5 days .. I finally got my internet back! This thread moves extremely fast! I remember when I left, we were only on page 176 or something. Just nine more pages and we've finally reached 200!! Did I miss anything on Ri In? Did she do any performances? o.o

[alicechan]

^ She will have another Y (Why...) performance this week (Janurary, 14th) on SBS Inkigayo.

The thing with BoA and Avex is that SM and Avex have some sort of a deal...which is why you'll see "SM Japan" labels on her CDs as well. So for sure, SM gets part of the profits from BoA's Japanese activities as well (it wouldn't make sense for SM to train BoA to debut in Japan and not take in any of the profits). That deal is also why all the SM artists that are active in Japan as well (CSJH, DBSK) are signed to a branch of Avex (Rhythm Zone[?]).

So for Ri In, she may get signed on to another Chinese company (which I think BoA, DBSK, and the rest of SM already are--the name of that company completely slipped my mind), and SM's China division will be a part of that deal as well, and will most definitely get a portion of the profits.

Maybe it's because I speak Cantonese, but I can't really understand Ri In's Chinese because of her accent. I understand Mandarin pretty well, but her accent makes it sound different o_o. If she wants to debut in Hong Kong as well...her accent might be a bit of a problem :x She (or SM) probably won't really consider the HK market though. It's so ridiculously tiny and it's doing worse than the Korean industry. For newcomers, album sales of about 10,000 are considered very very good.

Yeah, SM and Avex are contacted. So when BoA sells her albums and singles, Both SM and Avex gets the money equally. But I think Avex and BoA gets the most since BoA is the original singler and Avex is her company who sells and makes her albums and singles. Most of the artists in SM like DBSK, CSJH, ect, ect, are all signed in Avex and the branch of Avex, Rythm Zone.

Ri In already has an official site in Avex Taiwan -- Does that give us any hint? Yes, It's a meaning that she might make her official debut in Taiwan. I heard somewhere that Ri In signed a contract with Avex Taiwan somewhere... But, However, Avex Taiwan isn't a very well-known company in Taiwan, So they have only a little group of their artists. I have also heard that their artists aren't very successful in Taiwan either. That gets me a little in worry, If Ri In doesn't become an succeed artist in China, Lee Soo Man might loose his full faith on her. Psh, What the heck? Ri In can become the first sucessed artist in Avex Taiwan, nonetheless.

[Explicitj0yee]

^ makes me kinda nervous..

[nelly]

wow, I love her performance, she finally hit the high note but the second half, all stage presence seem to die out but I have to say she has improved a lot. I'm so happy for her.

[ohchells]

No, she can't debut in Taiwan! She doesn't have that whole cutesy thing to her, like the Taiwanese singers over there have. I rather have her debut in China and not too too well, then have her debut in Taiwan and have to turn all cutesy -______-;;
Don't get me wrong or anything, but I hate the whole cutesy thing in Taiwan. It's just blek and having Ri In be all cutesy is a big no. I don't think it'll suit her.

I think Ri In has what China looks in a female artist, expect her stupid stylist like everyone saids. Stop making her look so old and mature! Make her look young like in the Timeless Promotion Photoshoot -.-

[happytime]

^agree...i don't think she'll be sucessful in Taiwan either. and Taiwan is such a small country compare to China and population wise, it'll be disadvantage to Ri In if she does debut in Taiwan first. once she is popular in mainland, have sucessful album/single track, then i'll have no problem with her debuting in Taiwan. plus personally i think it is kinda weird when she's from mainland, and not debuting where she came from, but somewhere else. i am sure LSM has his plan. we just got to have a little in him, and Ri In, that they know what they are doing.

on a side not, i am glad she is singing on SBS this week, first time this year.

[jack jack attack]

She's going to debut in Taiwan? O.O Ooh! Hopefully she'll be successful. I agree .. I also don't like that whole cutesy act, but I wouldn't mind seeing her act cute once in awhile. Yay! Can't wait til her performance!

[JCho7]

ohh.. sbs.. I think it'll be cool if she did a special with someone... like lee jung hyun and bae sul gi did...

[jack jack attack]

^Ooh! That definitely would be cool! She should do it!! =D Anyway, I finally watched her latest performance, and I must say, she improved. Her ending still is a little off .. but she's gotten a lot better. She still rolls her throat when she yells though. She looks so comfortable on stage now. I don't really mind the bangs much anymore. I actually kind of like it.

[Explicitj0yee]

^agree...i don't think she'll be sucessful in Taiwan either. and Taiwan is such a small country compare to China and population wise, it'll be disadvantage to Ri In if she does debut in Taiwan first. once she is popular in mainland, have sucessful album/single track, then i'll have no problem with her debuting in Taiwan. plus personally i think it is kinda weird when she's from mainland, and not debuting where she came from, but somewhere else. i am sure LSM has his plan. we just got to have a little in him, and Ri In, that they know what they are doing.

on a side not, i am glad she is singing on SBS this week, first time this year.

well i agree with everything except that Taiwan is a seperate country lol, and about her performing on SBS first time this year, i was like didn't she perform in SBS?! lol i just notice its 2007 ;P

now to think of it.. i think the stylist was trying to give her the "Cutesy" look, like rainie yang. or rather like more of her age but she turned out looking older o.o

[happytime]

well i agree with everything except that Taiwan is a seperate country lol, and about her performing on SBS first time this year, i was like didn't she perform in SBS?! lol i just notice its 2007 ;P

now to think of it.. i think the stylist was trying to give her the "Cutesy" look, like rainie yang. or rather like more of her age but she turned out looking older o.o

about Taiwan being separate...i didn't mean it that way wrong choice of word...lol because to be politicaly correct they are one country. the thing is even though they are one country...their music taste is totally different in my opinion, and i don't know...is just different. maybe it's the way they pronouce...and maybe it's the TV. i have Taiwaness friends, and when i talked to them, i can understand them perfectly fine. but on TV, is totally differnent. maybe it's the problem w/ my komp and TV...

then there is her outfit...maybe u are right. they are trying to give this image, but is not working out. we should write a petition and demand for a new stylist...

[rukawa11]

^ She will have another Y (Why...) performance this week (Janurary, 14th) on SBS Inkigayo.
Yeah, SM and Avex are contacted. So when BoA sells her albums and singles, Both SM and Avex gets the money equally. But I think Avex and BoA gets the most since BoA is the original singler and Avex is her company who sells and makes her albums and singles. Most of the artists in SM like DBSK, CSJH, ect, ect, are all signed in Avex and the branch of Avex, Rythm Zone.

Ri In already has an official site in Avex Taiwan -- Does that give us any hint? Yes, It's a meaning that she might make her official debut in Taiwan. I heard somewhere that Ri In signed a contract with Avex Taiwan somewhere... But, However, Avex Taiwan isn't a very well-known company in Taiwan, So they have only a little group of their artists. I have also heard that their artists aren't very successful in Taiwan either. That gets me a little in worry, If Ri In doesn't become an succeed artist in China, Lee Soo Man might loose his full faith on her. Psh, What the heck? Ri In can become the first sucessed artist in Avex Taiwan, nonetheless.

Avex Taiwan is not that good.. singers under that label are Cyndi Wang, Show (Luo Zhi Xiang), Vivian Hsu and some other people that I can't remember..
For Taiwan, Sony is definitely the best label because that's where all the big names are: Wang Li Hom, Jay Chou, CoCo Li etc..
heck, she may even get to sing a song written by Jay or Wang Li Hom if she's under Sony..
Or even the new label Capitol, which is under EMI, which has singers like Jolin Tsai and Stefanie Sun (the two biggest female singers in Taiwan) and they apparently spare no costs in promoting their singers' albums..
But I guess it's unavoidable for her to start out in Taiwan, because the Taiwanese market has a lot of influence on the China, Malaysia, Hong Kong and Singapore market because it's the most established Chinese market around since all these years..
For her to become famous in the shortest span of time, Taiwan market is the first she has to take down I guess, because being famous means reaching out to international fans as well right? China will be LSM's ultimate aim though, that's for sure..

[blessed]

Yeah i get what u mean, but i think LSM is gonna debut his other korean groups/ singers in China after he makes Jang riin popular because Jang riin is from SM Entertainment, she'll make SM entertainment more known in China and more people would look forward for other artists from SM to debut in China.

mm.. so does that mean Ri In is like.. the connection from korea to china for the 3rd Hallyu? LSM has like.. EVERYTHING mapped out & planned!! haha you gotta admire him!
cos i heard DBSK were gonna concentrate on chinese in 2008..

i have no idea how she'll do if she debuts in Taiwan!! from what i've seen of it,, nearly everyone debuts with a cutesy image & then some turn sexy.
i hope Ri In doesnt debut in Taiwan!!! she has her own style.. well,, her stylist has her own style,, its classy & sophisticated & ladylike but young & innocent... i think.
but i think her style is really good at the moment. even though she looks older than her age.. i think she looks great!!

i'm really glad that shes gonna show her talents to other countries, but i still think she should work on korea first.. establish a larger fan base there. i love her to bits,, and i know HEAPS of other ppl do to, but if she moves too fast, she wont be able to get a firm foothold in any one place.

[rukawa11]

about Taiwan being separate...i didn't mean it that way wrong choice of word...lol because to be politicaly correct they are one country. the thing is even though they are one country...their music taste is totally different in my opinion, and i don't know...is just different. maybe it's the way they pronouce...and maybe it's the TV. i have Taiwaness friends, and when i talked to them, i can understand them perfectly fine. but on TV, is totally differnent. maybe it's the problem w/ my komp and TV...

then there is her outfit...maybe u are right. they are trying to give this image, but is not working out. we should write a petition and demand for a new stylist...

China is a really big country and therefore people of different areas like Sichuan, Shanghai and Beijing speak differently..
The Taiwanese accent is different from that of the ones in China, and that will be Ri In's biggest obstacle because people in Taiwan may not be able to understand her Chinese.. seriously when she sings in Chinese, her accent is masking all her pronounciations..
The Taiwanese accent is a little flatter than the ones in China and Taiwanese tend to speak really fast and in a slurry way..
no offence.. I just meant that each word is less emphasised..
Personal experience about the native speakers of Chinese in Taiwan:
I'm a Chinese myself in Singapore so it's compulsory for me to learn Chinese (both speaking and writing).. I grew up in a Chinese-speaking family as well..
but when i went over to Taiwan for my vacation, I struggled a little at trying to understand what the sales people are trying to drum into my brain..
aside from the fact that they were really persistent, they speak really fast, each word is less emphasised and we have different accents..
and actually, the Singaporean Chinese accent is nearer to the Taiwanese one than Ri In's.. so she may have a bit of a problem over in Taiwan..

maybe she's brushing up on her Korean, Chinese, singing and dancing at this point of time that is why she has so little activities?
just my guess..