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#1 User is offline   Battle Cat 

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 08:30 PM

what is the most effective martial art?

is it tae kwon do?
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:01 PM

each have their pros and cons. a lot of ppl find muay thai quite good, but like i said, each individual art has their own thing.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Battle Cat @ Oct 21 2006, 12:30 AM) View Post

is it tae kwon do?


i`d say yes. but it`s a biased opinion xD

it also depends on what you mean by "effective"...
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE(x라면 @ Oct 20 2006, 10:41 PM) View Post

i`d say yes. but it`s a biased opinion xD

it also depends on what you mean by "effective"...


I think TKD is the basics of martial arts... my opinion.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:16 PM

brazilian jiu jitsu? if youre talking about a single martial art.

if not, then it would be MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) which, in itself, relies heavily on brazilian jiu jitsu.

look up Pride FC or whatever, youll see that the top fighters are MMA trained.
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:19 PM

Yeah... Muay Thai is HELLA EFFECTIVE! But I think most men can take that. Because in Muay Thai you can easily get killed.

But yeah maybe probably TKD
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 10:21 PM

in my opinion.. TKD does nothing for you.. and yes i have taken it before so i'm speaking from my experience... and it was all focused on kicks.. and that was about it.. yes they teach your self defense moves.. but in real life.. no one is going to come and punch you or grab you like that sleep.gif!!


but then again.. what do you mean by effective?..

like building strength/muscle? using it in real life??... etcetc??
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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:12 PM

For military combatives.. i find that it's pretty effective.. It definitely gets it's point across... "It's not intended for you to kill someone. It's intended for you to keep him there long enough for your buddy to come and put two in his head." happy.gif and it does absolutely just that. There's no fair fights. There shouldn't

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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:59 PM

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in my opinion.. TKD does nothing for you.. and yes i have taken it before so i'm speaking from my experience... and it was all focused on kicks.. and that was about it.. yes they teach your self defense moves.. but in real life.. no one is going to come and punch you or grab you like that sleep.gif!!


like i said before, biased opinion here x)

i teach tkd~ and i disagree that it "does nothing for you"
it certainly is not centered around kicks -- and if that`s all you got out of it before, then i suggest you go demand a refund or something. and i HAVE used techniques taught in tkd to get myself out of several situations before, so i can testify that there are some nutjobs who do provoke you to handle them in that manner.

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lol i should hope not ^^;;
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 08:12 AM

To say a certain style is better than another is quite troublesome, i like to think the martial arts as a vehichle and the martial artist as a driver.
Without a good driver what good is the vehicle, do you get what im saying? Effectiveness is soley dependent upon ones strategy in combat not a style, the frame of ones mind also helps. Shinmen Musashi said it best " To think "i'll parry" or "i'll slap" or "'i'll hit, hold or touch" will be insufficient for cutting him down. it is essential to think that anything at all is an oppurtunity to cut him down". That is were effectiveness lies one must think of "cutting one down".

Also im tired of people putting down styles and uplifting others do to ignorance. Observing programs such as UFC or Pridefighting can not determine if a style is effective because there are a lot of rules(one rule is to many in combat there is none). You the flaws of watching theese shows are immense lulling viewers into thinking theese things are effective on the street, im sorry i rather quickly strike the throat collapsing ones trachea then allowing a slugfest which people of UFC are trained to do.

i dedicate this to all those people who are llike " BJJ and muay thai are the best" there are not get out of there dick. have you ever seen a muaty thai of BJJ in a street fight? Have you ever seen an expierience pressure point fighter able to paralyze a limb witch the attack of a few points that most people leave open? Get a grip and get out of that mind state that your style is best its not and if you think it is you will always underestimate and be killed.

and also if your wondering im a ee dan in TKD
oh and let me introduce you guys to kyokushin in my oppinion a martial art which teaches its practioners to be effective. http://youtube.com/watch?v=XT8D2MOBl5s but then again it is a video
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE(x라면 @ Oct 21 2006, 03:59 AM) View Post

like i said before, biased opinion here x)

i teach tkd~ and i disagree that it "does nothing for you"
it certainly is not centered around kicks -- and if that`s all you got out of it before, then i suggest you go demand a refund or something. and i HAVE used techniques taught in tkd to get myself out of several situations before, so i can testify that there are some nutjobs who do provoke you to handle them in that manner.



lol i should hope not ^^;;


what this person a huge black dude with huge guns (muscles)? sometimes even brute strength can take you out.

my friend got jumped and tried to do TKD and it didn't do crap. the dude just punched him hard and wrecked him.
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 10:52 AM

^Sumo.

If you manage to learn the various types of martial arts (for various situations), that's a lot better than just one. Being able to respond to a certain attack is one thing, but there may be another approach that another style teaches that's a lot more effective.

But hey, some people argue that martial arts and melee combat is for pussies cause real men use guns >_>
Or was it the other way around.............

Mehh, most people tend to have a gun hidden somewhere in case they get jumped. So what happens when you're caught off-guard or disarmed? sleep.gif

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Posted 21 October 2006 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE(Tetra @ Oct 21 2006, 11:52 AM) View Post

^Sumo.

If you manage to learn the various types of martial arts (for various situations), that's a lot better than just one. Being able to respond to a certain attack is one thing, but there may be another approach that another style teaches that's a lot more effective.

But hey, some people argue that martial arts and melee combat is for pussies cause real men use guns >_>
Or was it the other way around.............

Mehh, most people tend to have a gun hidden somewhere in case they get jumped. So what happens when you're caught off-guard or disarmed? sleep.gif


but what if you know martial arts AND use guns
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 05:21 PM

use martial arts, guns, and kick em in the balls, you're good to go
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Posted 21 October 2006 - 07:32 PM

i teach tkd as well (sam dan) and i do agree that its dumb and improper to think the brazilian jiu jitsu and muay thai dominates all in street fights is stupid. still, i would think that tkd is less practical than, lets say hapkido. tkd is more sport-type and show kciking the way i see it, though if you learnd how to utilize your skills in non-tkd fights it could help out a lot. but hapkido. that stuff is good

i find boxing or wrestling more practical, but thats just because ive seen them actually work. and actually ive seen a muay thai fighter in a street fight... he owned them. but its dumb to assume taht tkd sucks because one friend got owned and ooOooOoOoO he took tkd so this must mean tkd sucks. how much they have mastered certain arts go into more consideration than WHAT martial arts they have trained in
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Posted 22 October 2006 - 09:19 PM

tae kwon do is good.. it helps you train your mind and body.. tongue.gif
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 01:13 AM

Boxing or Muay Thai combined with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu or Submission wrestling is an effective combo.

I'm sorry but 99% of martial arts dojos out there are what you call "McDojos". And these dojos are filled with LITTLE KIDS. People, there is a good reason why mostly little kids train in these styles.

And saying that the style doesn't matter is not really true. Different styles tend to have different training methods. And training methods is what makes a style effective.

For example, in many martial arts dojos, you are normally taught to keep your hands low...that is just a suicidal stance to take in a real fight. In a real fight, you need to keep your hands UP, if not you will get knocked out cold by anyone who can throw a good punch.

Theres also a reason why military and law enforcement don't train in TKD or karate.

The most critical aspect of learning how to fight is FULL CONTACT SPARRING. This means sparring at 100% against a resisting opponent. Without this, you will never learn how to defend yourself.

And by the way, the first UFCs had no rules. Not that the rules changed which styles dominated.

It's laughable when people try to claim that so-called "deadly" techniques work in a fight. To be effective, you must be able to train your techniques against a resisting opponent going at 100%. You cannot do this with "death blows", pressure point strikes, groin strikes, or eye gouging. The result? If you have not regularly trained these techniques against a resisting opponent, good luck pulling it off in a real fight.

And I hate to think that some styles rely on these "deadly" techniques so much that without them, the style is ineffective.
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Posted 23 October 2006 - 10:33 PM

Here is how to decide which style or dojo to AVOID at all costs:

1. FORMS

Stay away from styles that make you learn useless choreographed forms. Are these supposed to simulate real life fighting situations? Please.

Horse Stance? High block? GTFO. You are paying your instructor to teach you how to fight, not how to dance.

2. Soft Sparring

One example - In sport TKD, you cannot strike the head, legs, or grab. Because of this, none of these are emphasized in training. Also as a result, TKD practitioners are trained to keep their hands down when the hands should be used to protect your face.

I don't care how many of you guys who teach TKD claim that your school is different and doesn't cater to sport TKD. The fact is, what I described here is the norm. If your TKD school is any different, its an exception.
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 04:12 PM

our master adds hapkido and judo stuff all into our routine so we've got grabbing, and face breaking action going on all the time

in the adult class anyway

come to the kiddy class and i will teach you how to high block lol

btw wats a gtfo?
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Posted 27 October 2006 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE(kzone @ Oct 24 2006, 07:12 PM) View Post

our master adds hapkido and judo stuff all into our routine so we've got grabbing, and face breaking action going on all the time

in the adult class anyway

come to the kiddy class and i will teach you how to high block lol

btw wats a gtfo?


gtfo = get the f* out
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