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#1301 User is offline   HERMIT 

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Posted 21 December 2006 - 08:30 AM

QUOTE(LolitaMan @ Dec 20 2006, 09:44 PM) View Post
merriman shouldn't be allowed to go cause he was caught using ROIDS.
I'm an admitted Charger fan and I agree that you have a point. I was surprised that he made it myself.

But in thinking about it, just how much more punitive can sanctions against him be - whether it by the league or the forum of public opinion - and for how long? He already served his 4 game punishment, will certainly be closely-scrutinized in every random drug test he takes, and it remains to be seen what future impact this will have on his marketing cache. Moreover, the incident, the fallout, and the suspension came in the midst of Pro Bowl voting and well before that voting concluded. So if the coaches, the players, and the fans still continued voting for the guy after the fact, and the NFL didn't see it fit to include barring him from a potential Pro Bowl appearance in their sanctions, how can we really complain about him going to Hawaii?

I find this particular situation interesting, especially when juxtaposed against the Barry Bonds situation, because in Bonds' case he had already been long into his baseball career when the steroid allegations occured and there was public perception that he had pulled the wool over our eyes with his fraudulent career accomplishments. In this case, it's understandable that we would continue to rail against him - especially in light of the fact that he still denies the accusations. Yet, when talking about Shawne Merriman, we're looking at a player that only had one year of playing under his belt, took his lumps by dropping his appeal and serving the suspension, admits to having the steroids in the system - just not knowingly taking it - and now there's still some segments of public opinion that want to 'bury him' as well?

I guess what I'm getting at is that while Bonds depiction of being a "cheater" may be appropriate because of the allegations occuring after the fact of an illustrious, though now dubiously fraudulent career - would it still be fair to continually view and label Merriman a "cheater" throughout his still yet to be played-out career - even if he's compliant and passes his drug tests and he still posts incredible defensive stats? I'm curious as to how long this young man will have to carry that "steroid badge" until his play on the field and hopefully continued adherence to the NFL drug policy ultimately speaks for themselves.
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Posted 21 December 2006 - 03:14 PM

Adrian Wilson....best safety in NFC.

GO CARDS!


Jones-Drew for ROY.
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Posted 21 December 2006 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE(jurassic5 @ Dec 21 2006, 06:14 PM) View Post
Adrian Wilson....best safety in NFC.

GO CARDS!
Jones-Drew for ROY.


addai will win it over jones-drew, although im not sure if addai deserves it over jones-drew..both are pretty similar in their rookie achievements, but addai is more hyped than drew, so he will win it.
or colston. although he has began to come back down to earth.still plays like a great receiver anyway cuz his confidence is like..way up there right now
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 05:47 AM

^ I doubt that. Addai hasn't done much in his last few games while Jones-Drew is still running hard and scoring. Then again Vince Young might win it just because of his great comebacks.
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Posted 22 December 2006 - 02:57 PM

QUOTE(LolitaMan @ Dec 22 2006, 08:47 AM) View Post
^ I doubt that. Addai hasn't done much in his last few games while Jones-Drew is still running hard and scoring. Then again Vince Young might win it just because of his great comebacks.


i disagree
vince young's comebacks have been magical, but i don't think he's been getting the hype and credit needed foor the roty
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Posted 24 December 2006 - 01:19 PM

O_O
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WOW. WOW. WOW.
WAY TO GO FALCONS, WAY TO LET WEINKE, WHO IS 1-17 AS A STARTER TAKE A SH!T IN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!!!
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW A TEAM WITH THIS MUCH TALENT CAN ONLY PUT UP 3 POINTS?!
THE COACHING, WHO SUCK IN THE FIRST PLACE, CAN'T EVEN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AT HALFTIME!

also.
knapp and donatell just suck @$$ and they know that they're getting kicked off into the streets no matter what
this game locked it up for mora, because when you make your owner CRY, your future doesn't look too good
blank likes mora as a person, and i do too, but his coaching inabilities is going to get him fired here, and this game locked it up for sure

pathetic OL..vick was leading rusher with 32 YARDS
he did breka the record for only qb to rush 1000 yrds in a season, but this is pitiful

mora looked like he was on the field with tears as well, and it makes me feel a little sorry for him, but sorry, we need the franchise to succeed.
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 07:44 AM

Awesome finish by the Chargers against the Seahawks to win the game in the end.
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 08:10 AM

You know what I'm starting to think now? Vince Young has to have shot up as the now favorite to win Rookie of the Year honors. After the team had an 0-5 start, Young has gone 8-2 in his last ten games as the rookie starter - with half of those wins coming from 4th quarter/OT comebacks engineered by him. He's thrown for nearly 2000 yards and 12 TDs - yet despite 11 picks, he's also rushed for over 500 yards with 6 rushing touchdowns. But the telling stat is that the Tennessee Titans have quietly come on and are now 8-7. Can you believe that? 8-7! It's crazy to fathom, but Tennessee can actually say that they are in playoff contention. Shoot, they even hold the tiebreaker (better division record, after a head-to-head split) over Jacksonville - a team that's always been on the radar as a playoff-contending team.
But the argument here is that while other rookies have been having great seasons, they were only contributing factors in the overall success of their respective teams. But for Vince Young, a case can be made that the majority of the success the Titans now enjoy could arguably be attributed solely to the dramatic step-up in play by this rookie. I don't think any other rookie can say that without them, their team couldn't have been just as successful - or at least been critically hampered in their absence.
Regardless of whatever becomes of their final home game against New England, I think that Young has more than solidified his case for becoming Rookie of the Year.
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE(HERMIT @ Dec 25 2006, 11:10 AM) View Post
You know what I'm starting to think now? Vince Young has to have shot up as the now favorite to win Rookie of the Year honors. After the team had an 0-5 start, Young has gone 8-2 in his last ten games as the rookie starter - with half of those wins coming from 4th quarter/OT comebacks engineered by him. He's thrown for nearly 2000 yards and 12 TDs - yet despite 11 picks, he's also rushed for over 500 yards with 6 rushing touchdowns. But the telling stat is that the Tennessee Titans have quietly come on and are now 8-7. Can you believe that? 8-7! It's crazy to fathom, but Tennessee can actually say that they are in playoff contention. Shoot, they even hold the tiebreaker (better division record, after a head-to-head split) over Jacksonville - a team that's always been on the radar as a playoff-contending team.
But the argument here is that while other rookies have been having great seasons, they were only contributing factors in the overall success of their respective teams. But for Vince Young, a case can be made that the majority of the success the Titans now enjoy could arguably be attributed solely to the dramatic step-up in play by this rookie. I don't think any other rookie can say that without them, their team couldn't have been just as successful - or at least been critically hampered in their absence.
Regardless of whatever becomes of their final home game against New England, I think that Young has more than solidified his case for becoming Rookie of the Year.


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Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:07 AM

fir every coach on the falcons mellow.gif
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:08 AM

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oh and fire matt millen

We could gladly lend you the Charger cannon that they fire after every LT score. laugh.gif
That is, if Millen's ass can fit in it.
The Falcon's staff, however, will have to form a line.
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:12 AM

QUOTE(HERMIT @ Dec 25 2006, 12:08 PM) View Post
We could gladly lend you the Charger cannon that they fire after every LT score. laugh.gif
That is, if Millen's ass can fit in it.
The Falcon's staff, however, will have to form a line.


oh we could use the cannon for the entire Lions front office

i dont know any other organization would keep someone for another 5 years after the Lions suffers 5 years of losing seaons...
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 11:04 AM

yeah....the Lions suck. laugh.gif (and this is coming from a cards fan..haha). millen must go..bring in a new regime.


as for the cards, they are the best in the West...but still didn't make the playoffs. they have the best divisional record in the NFC West at 4-2....but considering they sucked it up in the middle of the year...that doomed them.

leinart will be great next season behind a new O-line. Edge has shown life in the past few weeks, Fitz and Q are the best WR duo in the NFL and Adrian Wilson is a beast on D.

the only bad part about the cards winning so late in the season is that it's killing their draft position. we want joe thomas!!
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 05:31 PM

How bout 'em Cowboys?

For Christmas, I got a Gap sweater that hugs nicely around my abs, a rice cooker (from my mother) so I could feed myself, and slippers.. because it didn't fit my dad. But the best gift of all, the one gift I'll remember for a very long time, is an Eagles win and a Cowboys loss. It is just a bonus that both of those happened in one game. tongue.gif
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 07:04 PM

romo overrated? haha...glad to see the Eagles tear up the 'boys. TO droppin passes, Romo gettin picked, B-West having a great game...january football in philly again. woo hoo
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 07:56 PM

Romo is the worst Pro-Bowl pick in like the past 20 years.

The things Garcia was doing tonight, I had to keep reminding myself that he's friggin 37 years old. Wow. Some of his passes were awesome and it was nice to see a QB throw the football with some touch and accuracy on the short and intermediate throws for a change.

This was a great Christmas present.
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE(cksdayoff @ Dec 25 2006, 07:56 PM) View Post
The things Garcia was doing tonight, I had to keep reminding myself that he's friggin 37 years old. Wow.

Shoot, now you've reminded me of how old I am. Dang, even I'm over a year older than Brett Favre, who just turned 37 himself almost three months ago. mellow.gif
Going back to Garcia, I even have to remind myself that he's even a football player. Appearance-wise, he strikes me more like a Tour de France cyclist and I would never guess that he'd have a hispanic surname. unsure.gif
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Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE(LolitaMan @ Dec 21 2006, 12:44 AM) View Post
merriman shouldn't be allowed to go cause he was caught using ROIDS.


Unfortunately, the pro-bowl isn't a morality contest. You "earn" (and in this case, I use the word loosely) your way into the pro-bowl by your performance on the field and your popularity amongst the league (whether the NFL wants to admit it or not, but the pro-bowl can be a bit of a popularity contest).

I think Merriman should go. He has performed wonderfully on the field, and he paid his fines and served his suspension. I think Hermit mentioned this in his post. There comes a point and time where you have to forgive and forget because of the way Merriman conducted himself. I'm not saying that if you act like a gentleman, you are forgiven for all the wrongs you've done, but if you cannot let it go now, when can you?

QUOTE(cksdayoff @ Dec 25 2006, 10:56 PM) View Post
Romo is the worst Pro-Bowl pick in like the past 20 years.

The things Garcia was doing tonight, I had to keep reminding myself that he's friggin 37 years old. Wow. Some of his passes were awesome and it was nice to see a QB throw the football with some touch and accuracy on the short and intermediate throws for a change.

This was a great Christmas present.


Well, first of all, there have been plenty of players who was voted in the pro-bowl and did not have the performance to match the merits, and many of them much worse than good ole Tony Romo.

Second of all, who the heck would you put into the pro bowl if you don't think Tony Romo is deserving of it? Along with Tony Romo, Drew Brees and Marc Bulger are joining Romo to Honolulu (I wish I could join them.. I have a dear friend in Honolulu!). *shameless plug* I think we'd all agree that if Donovan was still healthy, he'd be a lock to Honolulu.

Then the other names that have been left out are Brett Farve, Dinosaur T-Rex Grossman (I've suddenly become the Soompi version of Chris Berman), Eli Manning, and Jake Delhomme. Now, Brett Farve hasn't played a particularly fantastic season, Jake Delhomme has not been playing consistently throughout the season, Eli Manning has stunk as of late, and Rex Grossman would cause a bigger outcry from the fans if he was selected.

Remember, the NFC has been a mediocre conference this season, and part of it is due to mediocre quarterbacks. Tony Romo just happened to win enough hearts and played (statistically speaking) as well as many quarterbacks up until the pro-bowl selection. I hate it as much as any that Tony Romo is in the pro-bowl, and that is not because I'm a die-heart Eagles fan and a die-heart Cowboys/Redskins/Giants hater. However, with the way the other quarterbacks have played this season, you just have to realize that the alternative to the pro-bowl would have probably been Hermit himself.


I think what is amazing about Jeff Garcia's performance as of late is that he plays with high proficiency, and it kind of reminds you of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Now don't call me a homer. I am NOT comparing Garcia to those other two guys, but very seldom do you see a team just run down a defense on EVERY possession like the Eagles' offense has. I remember when Garcia was 10 for 13 at one point of the game, and I remembered every single pass incompletion. It was THAT rare that I could actually remember it. Also, just look at the drives he has been sustaining, and this occurred last week against the Giants as well. He has been driving 60, 70, 80, at one point, 90 yard drives. Garcia is doing it by his inky-dinky passes, and the Eagles were literally jamming it down the Cowboys and Giants throat (does anyone remember me saying that I thought the Eagles did not have a good running game?!).

Hey, as an Eagles fan, I'll be the millionth person to say that I lost faith after the Indy game. Just watching the Eagles' Post Game Live, people literally went down the line and said, "After 5-6, I thought the Eagles had no chance in making the playoffs". Well, how many people now are saying that there isn't a team that can stop us? Well, pretty much everybody in Philadelphia (besides those Philly pessimists).

You guys will have to forgive me with this long post. I've been MIA for awhile (finals.. Eagles losing.. you know, the normal), so this is sort of coming back for me. tongue.gif


On another note, during a press conference after the Eagles-Cowboys game, TO said that he needs to be thrown the ball early and often to be an integral role throughout a game. I'm sorry, but I find that comment ridiculous (again, not because I'm a Cowboys hater). The guy is 6'4", god knows how many lbs, and built so well that he was actually in the front cover of some fitness magazine (I was subscribed to the god-awful magazine). Not only that, but the guy is a professional football player. His living is playing football. How is it possible that he cannot be ready at all times of the game even if he isn't being thrown the ball? (and note, there were two or three notable times where he flat out dropped the ball)

On another side note: he threw the Cowboys' play caller under the bus. First Drew Bledsoe, and now the 'Boys play caller. Yikes, well, he dropped two balls thrown right to him. Must have been Carrie Underwood watching from the boxes. I know that if Carrie Underwood was watching me play, I'd drop my balls too.
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Posted 26 December 2006 - 02:48 AM

^ Well actually the nfc has been the JV conference for several years now. And yes their QB's suck that's why it was so difficult to find a 3rd QB for the probowl lol.

Well anyway ....the panthers with 32 yard passing beating the falcons was hilarious. mora jr. needs to get fired And once again ...Mike Vick proved why he's the most over-rated nfl player

Stupid bungles lol...glad my Broncs survived that. Champ shut down Ocho Cinco ...got his revenge and it was sweet! It'll be between Champ and Jason Taylor for Defensive Player of the Year.... I hope Champ wins...but eastcoast media probably gonna vote for Taylor.




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Posted 26 December 2006 - 09:23 AM

QUOTE(LolitaMan @ Dec 26 2006, 05:48 AM) View Post
^ Well actually the nfc has been the JV conference for several years now. And yes their QB's suck that's why it was so difficult to find a 3rd QB for the probowl lol.

Well anyway ....the panthers with 32 yard passing beating the falcons was hilarious. mora jr. needs to get fired And once again ...Mike Vick proved why he's the most over-rated nfl player

Stupid bungles lol...glad my Broncs survived that. Champ shut down Ocho Cinco ...got his revenge and it was sweet! It'll be between Champ and Jason Taylor for Defensive Player of the Year.... I hope Champ wins...but eastcoast media probably gonna vote for Taylor.


mike had one bad game
i don't see how vick didn't make the pro bowl this year when he has made great strides in his quarterback playing (footwork got better, vision getting better although you can' treally see it because he doens't seem like he trusts his butterfinger receivers, decision making) and he matched his best statistical year, which was 2002, and broke a record for 1000 yd rushing for a quarterback in a season..even with the crappy OL that never gives him a pocket, and receivers that dropped 20+ balls all together, he had 20 tds and something like 11 or 15 int...and 2200 yds passing and 1000 rushing. thats practically 3300 yds passing, and if you add the 7 tds that were dropped by jenkins, lelie, crumpler, and white, youd have around 27-15, and who knows if he had a decent OL that could pass protect, he could've gone 30-15, and also, the crappy OL put him in totally crappy field position. also, our coaching staff has no clue how to utilize talent and has no clue when the pull a player out and put in a rookie/backup, even if the player may be your friend, loyalty can't stop you from doin gyour dam job. NFL = Not For Long

thats why i no longer like mora..the players like him, but they're regressing because he's a player's coach, not a disciplinarian, and he's not a genius either. thats what you need in this league..a strict coach that will get up in your face, or a genius.

i can only hope vick will show his true potential, because he showed flahses of it when his receivers caught his balls and had an OL to throw..his 2002 form came back, when he was able to flourish in reeves's system, which was designed SPECIFICALLY for him and the veritcal passing to utilize his strong arm..so thats why i will never see mike vick as an overrated bust. give him an OL, just 1 wr that can catch, and a coaching staff that can use mike vick in the way he' supposed to be used, and he will become the true dual-threat that we've only seen flashes of.
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