[thealmightyGOD]

haha imma laugh all up in yalls face who say pats cant go 16-0 again.


on another note favre said he will be at camp o_O. whoa so he is coming out of retirement and man wut if favre doesnt get traded o_O.



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You don't know what you're talking about half the time do you?

And who cares if they can go 16-0 or not, they did last season and they lost the Super Bowl. And no, they won't go 19-0.

[HERMIT]

ne wayz looks like n.e is gonna make another role =). if they go 16-0 again man imma be happy. only team in history to go back to back undefeated seasons =).

If they go 16-0 again it wouldn't be considered an undefeated season. They have to go all the way for it to be considered an undefeated season. And yes, they did not have an undefeated season in 2007. No one cares if you won all 16 regular season games. It's the big game that counts, and if you can win 16 games and then lose the big one, you just become a laughingstock.

I'd have to agree with thealmightGOD on this one. Merely going 16-0 during the regular season is not enough in and of itself to be merited an "undefeated season" unless your team is able to sweep the playoffs and win the Super Bowl. If an undefeated regular season were all that important, why are the Patriots not being revered so much for that accomplishment? Exactly: because they didn't follow through to the end in winning the Super Bowl. This is what is most remembered and the whole undefeated regular season gets relegated to mere footnote to a failed overall season. In short, the whole 16-0 undefeated season is overshadowed by that postseason failure.

Be happy about 16-0 if you like, but I'm afraid not a whole lot of people share your sentiment - and I gather that includes other Patriot fans who would rather have seen New England win and get closer to joining the upper echelon of 5 time Super Bowl winners like San Francisco, Pittsburgh, and Dallas instead of falling to a record of 3-2 in the big game.

It's also peculiar that you would more value going undefeated in the regular season for a second time in a row rather than winning the Super Bowl. Again, not winning the Super Bowl is like putting an asterisk next to this accomplishment anyway. The Patriots could have two back to back undefeated regular seasons but it would always immediately be followed by "...but they still failed to bring home the Lombardi trophy each time". Imagine a Buffalo fan in the early 90's saying, "Man, if the Bills just make it to the Super Bowl 4 straight times, that would be sweet - no other team has done that". But meanwhile, history shows that Buffalo is a four-time loser in four straight Super Bowl appearances. Which accomplishment is more remembered?

no im not joking have u even seen the pats schedule. there schedule is soo easy once again and the with most of the offense back they can go 16-0 again.

This also makes your revering a potential Patriots' back-to-back undefeated regular season all that more peculiar. If it's an easy schedule, even by your own admission, of what merit would an undefeated record be? Let's be realistic, if the Patriots manage to go undefeated, what's there to be truly proud of if they've gone through the schedule relatively unchallenged? An undefeated season would be a flimsy accomplishment and you know it. It's like playing Madden NFL on the easiest setting and then saying "yeah man, I'm bad-ass".

And don't pull the "but the Patriots can only play the games that they are scheduled to play" card in rebuttal. This is not so much about how New England is going to go undefeated. This is about the ludicrous rhetoric as to how and why you would overvalue going undefeated in the regular over winning the Super Bowl.

[thealmightyGOD]

It's also peculiar that you would more value going undefeated in the regular season for a second time in a row rather than winning the Super Bowl. Again, not winning the Super Bowl is like putting an asterisk next to this accomplishment anyway. The Patriots could have two back to back undefeated regular seasons but it would always immediately be followed by "...but they still failed to bring home the Lombardi trophy each time". Imagine a Buffalo fan in the early 90's saying, "Man, if the Bills just make it to the Super Bowl 4 straight times, that would be sweet - no other team has done that". But meanwhile, history shows that Buffalo is a four-time loser in four straight Super Bowl appearances. Which accomplishment is more remembered?

I like what you said Eli. I would also like to add that their 2007 16-0 regular season record already has an asterisk next to it already. While I don't think Spygate got them their 16-0 record, it caused enough drama and news for the NFL that a lot of NFL fans have pretty much placed an asterisk next to it. The only reason no one talks about it anymore is because their defeat in the Superbowl trumps all else and fans are laughing at that more than the supposed cheating. No one even cares that they lost their 1st round pick in the 2008 NFL draft due to it, but I guess that was also overshadowed a bit by their other first round pick.

[Krn_Track_Star]

lmao i guess we have our opinions. so let me ask u this. which is harder going 16-0 or winning a super bowl. by that defination i think winning the super bowl is alot easier cuz u can do wut the giants did or the steelers. go into the wild card and play ur heart out and win while they barly made it into the playoffs. yeah maybe not going 19-0 is a disappoiment but how can any one say that 16-0 doesnt mean anything and if it was that way den i guess u can say oh being the number one seed doesnt mean anything either cuz they lost in the playoffs.

like i said if the pats go 16-0 imma laugh in face of all those ppl who hate on them and if they go 19-0 imma laugh even harder in yall's face.

[thealmightyGOD]

lmao i guess we have our opinions. so let me ask u this. which is harder going 16-0 or winning a super bowl. by that defination i think winning the super bowl is alot easier cuz u can do wut the giants did or the steelers. go into the wild card and play ur heart out and win while they barly made it into the playoffs. yeah maybe not going 19-0 is a disappoiment but how can any one say that 16-0 doesnt mean anything and if it was that way den i guess u can say oh being the number one seed doesnt mean anything either cuz they lost in the playoffs.

like i said if the pats go 16-0 imma laugh in face of all those ppl who hate on them and if they go 19-0 imma laugh even harder in yall's face.

If winning the Super Bowl is so much easier than going 16-0...why did the Patriots go 16-0 and lose the Super Bowl? Hmm...your logic fails. Unless, you're claiming that your beloved Patriots didn't play their heart out at the Super Bowl. I dare you to tell one of the players that to their face.

16-0 means nothing. Do you even hear anyone talking about it anymore? The only people that keep reminding me that the Patriots ALMOST had an undefeated season are the Patriot "fans" that are actually just a bunch of sore losing bandwagoners. Seriously, you can ask the world and almost all would agree that going undefeated and being the first seed in the playoffs for any sport gets overshadowed by your loss in a championship game. Who cares if you did all that? You're still second.

Let's make a deal. If your Patriots go 16-0 or 19-0, you can laugh in our faces. If they don't, you have to buy a dictionary and actually use it.

P.S. Dallas, Texas. Wow...going for the Pats when you live next to America's team. I smell bandwagoner.

[SKTT1 VanBuren]

lmao i guess we have our opinions. so let me ask u this. which is harder going 16-0 or winning a super bowl. by that defination i think winning the super bowl is alot easier cuz u can do wut the giants did or the steelers. go into the wild card and play ur heart out and win while they barly made it into the playoffs. yeah maybe not going 19-0 is a disappoiment but how can any one say that 16-0 doesnt mean anything and if it was that way den i guess u can say oh being the number one seed doesnt mean anything either cuz they lost in the playoffs.

like i said if the pats go 16-0 imma laugh in face of all those ppl who hate on them and if they go 19-0 imma laugh even harder in yall's face.

Teams are built for the sole purpose for the inevitable goal of winning a Super Bowl, you ask any general manager what their main goal is that and that's what they will say to you. Ok fine, it might be SLIGHTLY easier to win a Super Bowl than go 16-0 but without the ring, that's all meaningless, just go ask any real Patriot fan about that. To go 16-0 almost everything has to go right for you, and a key part of that is players being healthy. If Tom Brady goes down, are they going 16-0? Doubt it. And what if they want to rest their players for playoff time?

[HERMIT]

lmao i guess we have our opinions. so let me ask u this. which is harder going 16-0 or winning a super bowl.

As far as the Patriots are concerned, winning the Super Bowl would be harder. Like you said, when you have a simple Mickey Mouse schedule playing in arguably one of the weakest divisions in football and facing other supposedly lesser-quality opponents, then going 16-0 should be a piece of cake. Again I say: Okay, so maybe they go undefeated in the regular season. So what?

[bhunji]

It's Super Bowl or bust every season for every team. Or at least that's how it should be.

Edit: Oh, and it's not 16-0; it's 18-1.

[thealmightyGOD]

It's Super Bowl or bust every season for every team. Or at least that's how it should be.

Edit: Oh, and it's not 16-0; it's 18*-1.

Corrected.

[Viet_teKniks]

westbrook derserves it...hes the best offensive threat the eagles have

[Krn_Track_Star]

If winning the Super Bowl is so much easier than going 16-0...why did the Patriots go 16-0 and lose the Super Bowl? Hmm...your logic fails. Unless, you're claiming that your beloved Patriots didn't play their heart out at the Super Bowl. I dare you to tell one of the players that to their face.

16-0 means nothing. Do you even hear anyone talking about it anymore? The only people that keep reminding me that the Patriots ALMOST had an undefeated season are the Patriot "fans" that are actually just a bunch of sore losing bandwagoners. Seriously, you can ask the world and almost all would agree that going undefeated and being the first seed in the playoffs for any sport gets overshadowed by your loss in a championship game. Who cares if you did all that? You're still second.

Let's make a deal. If your Patriots go 16-0 or 19-0, you can laugh in our faces. If they don't, you have to buy a dictionary and actually use it.

P.S. Dallas, Texas. Wow...going for the Pats when you live next to America's team. I smell bandwagoner.

lmao u should get ur facts stright and read the previous posts before u start calling people bandwagoners. wait ill tell u cuz ur soo damn stupid not to read. like i said before im from the EC (east coast) and lived very close to boston and they were the first nfl team i saw play in person so yeah i fell in love with them even when they were 5-11 or 4-12. i still didnt care wut ppl said they were my team and now since they are good won 3 championship in this decade people start hating them cuz they win to much and i bet u money if they win this year to they are gonna hate them even more. speaking of bandwagers i guess ur calling the cowboys fan in cali right now bandwagoners to because the cowboys are in cali n yet the fans live in cali and lmao ass off wtf is heaven. he lives in heaven n yet he can still talk to people. gg my kid. unlike u im honest in where i live.


like i said 16-0 doesnt mean ur the best but it still proves that your one of the best and if breaking records (personal or team) then i guess dan marino wuz trash then because he broke alot of records ad couldnt win the super bowl and yet we still talk about how he wuz one the best players in history and same goes with barry sanders.

and almighty i guess u dont watch the nfl network alot do u. everyone talks about it. can the patriots go 16-0 and like 3 or 4 people said they can if they stay healthy since their tough opponents are scattered through their schedule unlike last year wen they had 6 out of their first 8 games with a easy team. and speaking of the super bowl how many ring does brady have already. oh wait he has 3 and led the patriots his 2nd season in the nfl to a super title.

so before u start talking crap u should really speak for yourself.

and if u want to get technical about typing cuz he still thinks its like school (bet he is like 12 or 13 wanting to get soo technical about typing) then i guess this will help.

You should tell me who's your team and see if you can back them up if they are actually good.

[thealmightyGOD]

1. We never said 16-0 means a team isn't good, we said it's not the best, and that's what matters.
2. We never said any team that doesn't win the Super Bowl is trash, so your Dan Marino analogy is illogical.
3. People always mention Dan Marino, his records, how great of a QB he was, and then how he never won a Super Bowl. Yes, the Patriots have won 3, but people will remember those seasons and laugh at their 18-1 season.
4. Okay, I didn't say the Patriots can't go 16-0 or 19-0, I just said the probabilities of doing something like that again in a consecutive season is low, extremely low and therefore my prediction is that they will neither go 16-0 or 19-0. Just because 3-4 people on NFL Network says something, it doesn't mean it will happen.
5. I never said that all people are bandwagoners if they live in a different state. You just have the qualities of one and you probably are. I bet you can't even name your team's offensive line without looking it up, hell I'm not even a fan of the Patriots and I know it.
6. My team is the Oakland Raiders. Why does my team have to be good to be a fan of it? Just bandwagoner talk. And at least my team doesn't have an asterisk next to their dynasty.
7. You couldn't have liked the team when they were 5-11 and 4-12 status. They never had a 4-12 season and their last losing season before their 5-11 season was in 1995. They were winning every season until Belichick became coach and it took him a year to make that team better. I knew something was wrong with your "oh I was a fan of the Patriots even during their consecutive losing seasons and when they sucked" talk. They haven't sucked in awhile. They're probably the third longest running dynasty after SF and Dallas. Too many flaws in your story, son.

I OFFICIALLY STAMP YOU BANDWAGONER.

18-1*

[amaru]

lmao u should get ur facts stright and read the previous posts before u start calling people bandwagoners. wait ill tell u cuz ur soo damn stupid not to read. like i said before im from the EC (east coast) and lived very close to boston and they were the first nfl team i saw play in person so yeah i fell in love with them even when they were 5-11 or 4-12. i still didnt care wut ppl said they were my team and now since they are good won 3 championship in this decade people start hating them cuz they win to much and i bet u money if they win this year to they are gonna hate them even more. speaking of bandwagers i guess ur calling the cowboys fan in cali right now bandwagoners to because the cowboys are in cali n yet the fans live in cali and lmao ass off wtf is heaven. he lives in heaven n yet he can still talk to people. gg my kid. unlike u im honest in where i live.


like i said 16-0 doesnt mean ur the best but it still proves that your one of the best and if breaking records (personal or team) then i guess dan marino wuz trash then because he broke alot of records ad couldnt win the super bowl and yet we still talk about how he wuz one the best players in history and same goes with barry sanders.

and almighty i guess u dont watch the nfl network alot do u. everyone talks about it. can the patriots go 16-0 and like 3 or 4 people said they can if they stay healthy since their tough opponents are scattered through their schedule unlike last year wen they had 6 out of their first 8 games with a easy team. and speaking of the super bowl how many ring does brady have already. oh wait he has 3 and led the patriots his 2nd season in the nfl to a super title.

so before u start talking crap u should really speak for yourself.

and if u want to get technical about typing cuz he still thinks its like school (bet he is like 12 or 13 wanting to get soo technical about typing) then i guess this will help.

You should tell me who's your team and see if you can back them up if they are actually good.

All I gotta say is 18-1

16-0 Greaaaat, its history, awesome, *thumbs up* really. But does it all really even matter when the Patriots can't win in the game that matters the most? Players don't sign multi-million dollar contracts or play to go 16-0, they play to win championships and obviously the Patriots didn't win one this year. If anything you should go root for the Cowgirls, at least you won't get pointed out for being a bandwagoner.

As for my team, I'm an Eagles fan, I bleed green and just because I live in NY/NJ area does not mean I'm gonna suddenly jump on the Giants bandwagon. My team aren't champions but whatever, I'm still loyal and they DON'T have to be a "good" team to get my support. I'll put money down that when the Patriots start to fail or when all the players start leaving, you will leave juuuuust like them. Hating on Asante Samuel's contract just because he left your "favorite" team . Good day bandwagoner.

[Krn_Track_Star]

1. We never said 16-0 means a team isn't good, we said it's not the best, and that's what matters.
2. We never said any team that doesn't win the Super Bowl is trash, so your Dan Marino analogy is illogical.
3. People always mention Dan Marino, his records, how great of a QB he was, and then how he never won a Super Bowl. Yes, the Patriots have won 3, but people will remember those seasons and laugh at their 18-1 season.
4. Okay, I didn't say the Patriots can't go 16-0 or 19-0, I just said the probabilities of doing something like that again in a consecutive season is low, extremely low and therefore my prediction is that they will neither go 16-0 or 19-0. Just because 3-4 people on NFL Network says something, it doesn't mean it will happen.
5. I never said that all people are bandwagoners if they live in a different state. You just have the qualities of one and you probably are. I bet you can't even name your team's offensive line without looking it up, hell I'm not even a fan of the Patriots and I know it.
6. My team is the Oakland Raiders. Why does my team have to be good to be a fan of it? Just bandwagoner talk. And at least my team doesn't have an asterisk next to their dynasty.
7. You couldn't have liked the team when they were 5-11 and 4-12 status. They never had a 4-12 season and their last losing season before their 5-11 season was in 1995. They were winning every season until Belichick became coach and it took him a year to make that team better. I knew something was wrong with your "oh I was a fan of the Patriots even during their consecutive losing seasons and when they sucked" talk. They haven't sucked in awhile. They're probably the third longest running dynasty after SF and Dallas. Too many flaws in your story, son.

I OFFICIALLY STAMP YOU BANDWAGONER.

18-1*

lmao this kid is funny. thinks he is the sh1t bet he aint nothing behind ur comp but if u say they have been good for a long time why where they 2-14 during the 1992 season and i didnt look that up and i bet u know even know who coached then without looking it up. hmmmmm i guess all people call each other bandwagoners when they cant come up with a good come back.

and lets see wut esle i believe they went 6-10 or wuz it 5-11 during the 1991 season hmmmmm. oh wait let me see how well the raiders are. wait they fking suck. they still gonna lose with the best corner in the game.


and how can u tell me wut i like and wut i dont like. ur not me and i bet u money if u see in person he wont say all this kind of crap. this fewl would get his ass beat and in 100% sure of that and u wanna see ill pay for ur ticket where ever u are coming from just to get ur ass beat.

and go look up their season kool-aidgot during the 90's and see when they were good. hell they even lost to the packers in the super bowl.

so if u wanna talk some more sh1t come to my face and say it.

or just stfu.

[amaru]

lmao this kid is funny. thinks he is the sh1t bet he aint nothing behind ur comp but if u say they have been good for a long time why where they 2-14 during the 1992 season and i didnt look that up and i bet u know even know who coached then without looking it up. hmmmmm i guess all people call each other bandwagoners when they cant come up with a good come back.

and lets see wut esle i believe they went 6-10 or wuz it 5-11 during the 1991 season hmmmmm. oh wait let me see how well the raiders are. wait they fking suck. they still gonna lose with the best corner in the game.


and how can u tell me wut i like and wut i dont like. ur not me and i bet u money if u see in person he wont say all this kind of crap. this fewl would get his ass beat and in 100% sure of that and u wanna see ill pay for ur ticket where ever u are coming from just to get ur ass beat.

and go look up their season kool-aidgot during the 90's and see when they were good. hell they even lost to the packers in the super bowl.

so if u wanna talk some more sh1t come to my face and say it.

or just stfu.

You know you just basically proved his argument that you are a bandwagoner? You don't have to be a fan of a good team to declare your loyalty to a team. Obviously you might think that you do.

And hey pay for my ticket, I'll come to Dallas wearing an Eagles jersey and I'll basically say this all to you. I want to come visit Dallas anyways, never been to the South.

Btw, cursing to prove your "e-thugness" online is so 1998, switch ya style up kid.

[thealmightyGOD]

lmao this kid is funny. thinks he is the sh1t bet he aint nothing behind ur comp but if u say they have been good for a long time why where they 2-14 during the 1992 season and i didnt look that up and i bet u know even know who coached then without looking it up. hmmmmm i guess all people call each other bandwagoners when they cant come up with a good come back.

and lets see wut esle i believe they went 6-10 or wuz it 5-11 during the 1991 season hmmmmm. oh wait let me see how well the raiders are. wait they fking suck. they still gonna lose with the best corner in the game.


and how can u tell me wut i like and wut i dont like. ur not me and i bet u money if u see in person he wont say all this kind of crap. this fewl would get his ass beat and in 100% sure of that and u wanna see ill pay for ur ticket where ever u are coming from just to get ur ass beat.

and go look up their season kool-aidgot during the 90's and see when they were good. hell they even lost to the packers in the super bowl.

so if u wanna talk some more sh1t come to my face and say it.

or just stfu.

Your whole post was all contradictory and hypocritical as hell. It just proves you're a bandwagoner and the "e-thug" you're accusing me of being. If you notice, none of us ever insulted you until you started to insult us first for predicting that the Patriots will not go undefeated. Funny part is, none of us said they have no chance of winning the Super Bowl. We actually never insulted "your" Patriots, we just told you that the chances of them even going undefeated in the regular season alone again, is very unlikely, and therefore we believe it will not happen.

Oh, and while I did say they've been one of the longest dynasties, I think they've pretty much been a dynasty since 1993 or 1994 if I remember correctly, I didn't say the team has been a dynasty since its inception, so I don't care if they had a losing record in 1991 or 1992; the only thing that proves is that their dynasty didn't start in the early 90s. I just know the dynasty started before their down year, 1995, 5-11 season.

How does someone NOT know who coached the Patriots back then? It's Bill Parcells, the sad part is you'll probably accuse me of looking that one up while patting yourself on the back for looking up winning records from old seasons and claiming that you memorized them. The funnier part is that you're 22 and that would make you 5 yrs old back in 1991. Yeah, nice job remembering that stuff from 1991. I also find it funny that you can "remember" their record from 1991 when you were 5 years old, but somehow "remembered" that they had some long streak of losing seasons in the mid to late 90s when Bill Parcells practically made the dynasty what it is today. That's some very selective memory you've got there. The kind of memory I'd like to call bandwagoning googling memory.

Nice job of going around the swear filters too!

[jurassic5]

PENALTY!

knock off the swearing and bashing.


you've all been warned!




besides, it won't matter because Matty and the Cards are going to the Bowl this year and tearing apart the AFC!

[knockblock]

westbrook derserves it...hes the best offensive threat the eagles have

The Eagles need to add more to their offense.

Matty and the Cards are going to the Bowl this year and tearing apart the AFC!

Before they can attempt that they have to go through other NFC teams.

[thealmightyGOD]

besides, it won't matter because Matty and the Cards are going to the Bowl this year and tearing apart the AFC!

Do you read Michael Silver?

[SKTT1 VanBuren]

yeah go cardinals!!! lol =P