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#2801 User is offline   jurassic5 

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:55 AM



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First, an apology: Seahawks fans, I know I’ve been telling you to get over the calls that went against you in Super Bowl XL, but the flurry of flags Sunday night brought it all back, and now I once again feel your pain. Granted, many of the penalties against the Cardinals were deserved, and ultimately I don’t think the officiating cost either Arizona or Seattle a Super Bowl victory. Yet after Sunday, I can totally see how an objective observer would wonder whether the Steelers have some cosmic, unconscious hold on the hearts and minds of the zebras. Some examples: After Roethlisberger threw an incompletion on first-and-10 from the 50 midway through the third quarter, he was pushed in the back by Dansby, whose momentum appeared to carry him into the quarterback. The refs called a personal foul. Later that drive, on third-and-goal from the Arizona 9, Big Ben was about to get sacked and chucked the ball toward nobody in what seemed like a logical time for an intentional-grounding call. The officials didn’t flag him, ruling that he was outside the pocket – it looked pretty borderline to me. On the next play, Jeff Reed’s 27-yard field goal attempt, Adrian Wilson unintentionally ran into the holder, Mitch Berger, and a personal foul was called. It may have been legitimate, but things had become so one-sided that from that point on reporters in my section of the press box started conjuring up sarcastic fouls every time the Cards made a play: The defender threw the ballcarrier to the ground, resulting in a 15-yard penalty … Then, midway through the fourth quarter, on second-and-goal from the Pittsburgh 4, Warner threw an underneath pass to halfback Tim Hightower and got absolutely clocked by Harrison. The hit was far more egregious than Dansby’s push of Roethlisberger earlier, but no flag was thrown. Awful. Finally, after Holmes’ game-winning touchdown catch, his celebration – a LeBron James powder-throwing tribute – seemed to violate the rule against using the football as a prop, which could have resulted in a 15-yard penalty that would’ve forced Pittsburgh to kick off from its own 15. I’m not suggesting there was a conspiracy in Pittsburgh’s favor. I do believe, however, that this supposed all-star cast of officials had Ed Hochuli Disease: a tendency to make the game more about them than necessary. There were 11 penalties on the Cards for 106 yards, and seven for 56 on the Steelers.

Now here’s the real diatribe: On the penultimate play of the game, after Warner was hit by Woodley while seemingly trying to throw a pass, the play was ruled a fumble, recovered by Woodley – and the officials acted like they had a table waiting at Mons Venus and needed to get there by 11. For all I know, the play would not have been overturned, and perhaps the replay official was able to determine that conclusively in a very short period. But even if it were only for the sake of appearances, how could the officials not stop the game and go through the process of conducting a formal review? I mean, this is the league that brought you the Tuck Rule, a play whose reversal at the time of the replay review seemed utterly incomprehensible, until Walt Coleman informed us how little we knew about football. Speaking of which, maybe Warner tucked the ball at some point during the play in question; or, perhaps, a conclusive case could be made that his arm was going forward. Or maybe not, but at least slow it down and take a few good looks at the replay. Because, you know, it’s only the most important game of the season. Sure, only five seconds remained, but had there been a reversal, the ball would’ve moved from the Pittsburgh 44 to the 29, because a personal foul had been called on Woodley for taunting after the play. Hmmm, let’s see, Warner throwing up top to Fitzgerald from about his own 35? I’d say there’s a little bit better chance of completing that than your typical Hail Mary. Again, it’s quite possible that the fumble would’ve been upheld on replay, and all of this would then become moot. I’m just stunned that the officials didn’t even bother to hash it out.


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usually not a big Silver fan, but he hit the nail on the head in the 2nd paragraph.





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#2802 User is offline   RE. 

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 09:49 AM

^ wow. that would be interesting seeing Warner to Fitz for the last play. That's what should have happened instead of the wack "it was a fumble"
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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:01 PM

Steelers got lucky...I lost 500 dollars on the superbowl:(
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#2804 User is offline   knockblock 

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (edward1849 @ Feb 1 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This Superbowl was as good (if not better) a game as last year. What a thrilling finish. I don't watch as much football as before but man I'm glad I did not miss this one. Congrats to the Steelers and a brilliant comeback by the Cards to make the last quarter so exciting.


I thought last year was better. But this one was good too.
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Posted 03 February 2009 - 12:20 AM

I was rooting for the Steelers, but I just want to say there were questionable calls on both sides.

The Cards had a long kickoff return, I forgot who it was by, and there was the most obvious block in the back that I've seen in awhile and they didn't call it.
They called a holding penalty on I think the Steeler's leftguard, don't remember exactly and in my opinion the guy wasn't even holding on to him, he got pancaked by the tackle and the tackle just fell down on top of him.

I agree with reviewing that fumble at the end, even though I was rooting for the Steelers I was calling it an incomplete pass the whole time. I was surprised that they didn't review it. All the personal foul calls to me were correct except for the Dansby one. The Adrian Wilson one was pretty bad in my opinion and it deserved a penalty.
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#2806 User is offline   knockblock 

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 05:40 PM

Ben Roethlisberger is now a top 5 qb. But there are some I would prefer over him.
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Posted 05 February 2009 - 06:28 PM

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Holmes did not make the catch lol

cause if you look at the replay, the motion below the hips was very very short. Why? cause he hit the tip of his toe.

On top of that, the referees did make a lot of errors. A lot of questionable and obvious calls: Boldin was on field on the 100 yard return by the steelers, Warner took his helmet off on field, excessive celebration on the final touch down by steelers, Warner got face masked on the 100 yard returning, no ruffing the passer by cards, there was no holding on the line of scrimmage by the steelers when the refs called a safety.
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#2808 User is offline   LolitaMan 

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Posted 05 February 2009 - 06:45 PM

^ It was no way better than last year's. Cardinals trailed for much of the game and it wasn't an upset. Lastyear's SB was way more dramatic...an 18-0 Unstoppable force getting beat by a gritty giants team.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 06:19 PM

Nnamdi Asomugha is going to be ballin out of control.

3yr/$45 million, 28.5 million guaranteed
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Posted 22 February 2009 - 10:55 AM

you have no idea how desperately i wanted the falcons to get nnamdi asomugha..he's bar none the best cb in the league at this point..absolute shutdown corner
i read somewhere that a clause of his contract is that:
in his third year, if the raiders want to keep asomugha, they ahve to pay him the average of the top 5 QUARTERBACKS, thats right, not corner, but quarterbacks or 16.75 million (whichever value is higher)
and this also skews the amount of money that albert haynesworth is going to want. apparently before, he wanted in the range of 11-12 mil per year, and now he wants something like 15-16, which is why the falcons pulled out. i say he goes to the bucs who are really interested in him and have 46 mil in cap space. but for a guy who has some character issues and laziness, the team that gets suckered into paying one player the value of 3 solid players is overpaying and going to be screwed.

oh, and anyone a draft nut here?
ive been really growing on the three big usc linebackers, rey maualuga, clay matthews jr., and brian cushing
i dont particularly follow college players, but i know that we won't go after rey because he's a prototype mlb (wasn't he supposed to be like a top5 pick if he came out last year) and i only recently heard about cushing and matthews, but im wondering which is the better prospect overall and which is the better pass rusher?
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Posted 25 February 2009 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE (truexskills @ Feb 22 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you have no idea how desperately i wanted the falcons to get nnamdi asomugha..he's bar none the best cb in the league at this point..absolute shutdown corner
i read somewhere that a clause of his contract is that:
in his third year, if the raiders want to keep asomugha, they ahve to pay him the average of the top 5 QUARTERBACKS, thats right, not corner, but quarterbacks or 16.75 million (whichever value is higher)
and this also skews the amount of money that albert haynesworth is going to want. apparently before, he wanted in the range of 11-12 mil per year, and now he wants something like 15-16, which is why the falcons pulled out. i say he goes to the bucs who are really interested in him and have 46 mil in cap space. but for a guy who has some character issues and laziness, the team that gets suckered into paying one player the value of 3 solid players is overpaying and going to be screwed.

oh, and anyone a draft nut here?
ive been really growing on the three big usc linebackers, rey maualuga, clay matthews jr., and brian cushing
i dont particularly follow college players, but i know that we won't go after rey because he's a prototype mlb (wasn't he supposed to be like a top5 pick if he came out last year) and i only recently heard about cushing and matthews, but im wondering which is the better prospect overall and which is the better pass rusher?

Haynesworth is overpricing himself. Asomugha is a much better football player and way more motivated even on one of the worse teams in the NFL.
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:31 PM

haynesworth just signed a monster contract worth 100mill/7years with the skins...and deangelo hall also signed with them for 6yrs/54mill

man skins sure got that paper paper.......please let RAY RAY come to dallas...cept we have no cap room....*ouch*

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 01:31 PM

haynesworth just signed a monster contract worth 100mill/7years with the skins...and deangelo hall also signed with them for 6yrs/54mill

man skins sure got that paper paper.......please let RAY RAY come to dallas...cept we have no cap room....*ouch*
 

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 02:21 PM

Fred Taylor signs with the Patriots, interesting to see this plays out

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 04:35 PM

i never understood how the redskins annually sign huge players to excessive contracts, and every year people say "they'll be in cap room hell in a couple years"
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE (Viet_teKniks @ Feb 27 2009, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
haynesworth just signed a monster contract worth 100mill/7years with the skins...and deangelo hall also signed with them for 6yrs/54mill

man skins sure got that paper paper.......please let RAY RAY come to dallas...cept we have no cap room....*ouch*


thats john teshing ridiculous. WHYYYY ALBERT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 09:46 PM

My Broncos got B. Dawkins! Wooo...finally a stud Safety!!! Even though he's older now, he's still up there just behind Reed and Polamalu.

I wonder who's gonna pay big money for a 32 yr old TJ Houzmanzadhadlfjad??
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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:43 PM

Vikings get Sage Rosenfel. Interesting to see if he will be a starting quarterback or backup for the Vikings.
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Posted 28 February 2009 - 11:16 AM

Matt Cassel and Mike Vrable are traded to the Chiefs for the 34th pick

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Posted 28 February 2009 - 07:24 PM

Eagles sure did lose a lot of players this year.

Atleast my Broncos & Chiefs are doing some smart moves.

Glad the Chiefs got rid of Huard and my Broncos got Dawkins ~
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